N.H. state rep must pay $200K and apologize after drag queens settle defamation case

[Larniavc]

I would sit in jail before any of those things happened!

You’d go to jail rather than not spread lies and defame two innocent people?

What did Jesus say about lies?

 

[Larniavc]

I believe religion is wholly inappropriate to foist upon children and causes real harm to them so, if someone attempts to engage my children in discussions about their religious beliefs and I'm there to stop it I will do so. However, I don't believe it would be appropriate for me to tell you that your children shouldn't be allowed to go to church and hang out with the pastor. That's not my call to make.

This is the answer. I don’t let my child anywhere near religious people if I can help it but have no issue about other parents having the vicar around for tea.

 

[Larniavc]

It’s demonic.

Is it more or less demonic than a woman wearing a suit?

 

[iluvatar5150]

Exactly.

I meant a literal clown.

 

[ozso]

I meant a literal clown.

Ah a false equivalency. It's more like putting on blackface.

 

[RileyG]

Is it more or less demonic than a woman wearing a suit?

Lol.

No, not the same.

 

[RileyG]

What about women wearing trousers and bomber jackets? With (dare I say) short hair?

They're still feminine. What's the point?

Again, what adults choose to do, I don't care. It's none of my business.

Adult entertainment is adult entrainment.

 

[RileyG]

Ah a false equivalency. It's more like putting on blackface.

YES! Exactly! Some people compare drag queens to blackface. I don't personally do, but I can understand the comparison.

 

[Belk]

The lion's share of it is resistance towards children being immersed in LGBTQQIP2SAA+ via their schools, libraries, books, gaming, TV, and merchandise etc. And it would likely be more prolific and intensive if it wasn't under scrutiny. That's why they try to gaslight us with "the more you talk about it, the worse it gets" or "if you ignore it, it will go away".

I do not see that some people being bigots is a reason to limit others freedom.

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

A New Hampshire state representative will pay two drag queens $100,000 each in a settlement after they sued him for falsely calling one a sex offender and accusing another of acting inappropriately with children.

Rep. David Love (R) made the comments in 2022 while introducing a bill to require library employees and volunteers to obtain background checks. He was driven to do so, he told his peers in the New Hampshire legislature, because of drag queens.

Now the allegations — which Love reiterated despite the drag queens, local officials and community members contesting them — will cost him $200,000.

[And the apology]

“After being provided with inaccurate information, information that I failed to verify, I publicly accused Robert Champion aka Monique Toosoon of being a registered sex offender and Michael McMahon aka Clara Divine of ‘rubbing butts’ with children,” Love said in his retraction. “... I have since learned that those assertions were completely false. I wish to publicly retract those statements and apologize to Robert and Michael.”

With their settlement, they join a slew of drag performers who have successfully sued over false accusations of sexual misconduct. In May, a jury awarded Idaho drag performer Eric Posey more than $1 million after a conservative blogger falsely accused him of exposing himself to children. A U.K. judge in January ordered a conservative commentator to pay a British-Canadian drag queen Colin Seymour around $200,000 in a libel case after falsely calling him a pedophile, Deadline reported.

Rule number 1 in politics: When making authoritative assertions (as opposed to opinions, like "he blathers on incessantly") about ANYONE (identity group entirely irrelevant), be sure what you are saying is factual. If so, truth is a complete defense to defamation. If not, this is what will happen.

 

[Larniavc]

Lol.

No, not the same.

Why not? Please be specific. Why is a man in a dress better or worse, more sexual or less sexual than a woman in the same attire?

 

[Hvizsgyak]

You’d go to jail rather than not spread lies and defame two innocent people?

What did Jesus say about lies?

You are another person trying to make right, wrong and wrong, right. So, I am not even going to respond to your foolish question.

 

[RileyG]

Why not? Please be specific. Why is a man in a dress better or worse, more sexual or less sexual than a woman in the same attire?

It’s not sexual. It’s not over exaggerating stereotypes. That’s the difference.

 

[RileyG]

I do not see that some people being bigots is a reason to limit others freedom.

Not waiting lgbt + taught in public schools isn’t being bigoted.

Just because someone doesn’t agree with that ideology doesn’t mean people hate that community.

Some people don’t like it or are not comfortable with it.

It’s just how it is. Can’t change peoples opinions.

 

[Belk]

Not waiting lgbt + taught in public schools isn’t being bigoted.

You can't teach "lgbt +". It is not a learned skill. It is something someone is and if you object to teaching people that they exist or are deserving of the same respect as anyone else then yes, it is bigoted.

Just because someone doesn’t agree with that ideology doesn’t mean people hate that community.

LGBT is not an ideology either. Objecting to treating people fairly is hate in my estimation.

Some people don’t like it or are not comfortable with it.

People are uncomfortable with all manner of things. That is also not a reason to restrict others.

It’s just how it is. Can’t change peoples opinions.

Yes, yes you can change peoples opinions. It happens all the time.

 

[RileyG]

You can't teach "lgbt +". It is not a learned skill. It is something someone is and if you object to teaching people that they exist or are deserving of the same respect as anyone else then yes, it is bigoted.


LGBT is not an ideology either. Objecting to treating people fairly is hate in my estimation.

People are uncomfortable with all manner of things. That is also not a reason to restrict others.

Yes, yes you can change peoples opinions. It happens all the time.

In my opinion you can still love and support someone WITHOUT agreeing with all their actions.

I have nothing else to add.

Have a nice evening

 

[Larniavc]

You are another person trying to make right, wrong and wrong, right. So, I am not even going to respond to your foolish question.

You are clearly approving of wrongly accusing people of a crime that they have not committed.

Is that what the Bible tells people to do?

 

[Larniavc]

It’s not sexual. It’s not over exaggerating stereotypes. That’s the difference.

How is a man in a dress more sexual than a woman in a dress?

When I see a man in a dress I don’t think of sex but I would with a woman.

What can we conclude from that?

 

[Belk]

In my opinion you can still love and support someone WITHOUT agreeing with all their actions.

I have nothing else to add.

Have a nice evening

No one said you couldn't so on that we are in agreement.

 

[Hvizsgyak]

And that is certainly your right to think that and not allow your children to attend. It is not for someone else to decide for other people's children, however.

For example, I believe religion is wholly inappropriate to foist upon children and causes real harm to them so, if someone attempts to engage my children in discussions about their religious beliefs and I'm there to stop it I will do so. However, I don't believe it would be appropriate for me to tell you that your children shouldn't be allowed to go to church and hang out with the pastor. That's not my call to make.

Hey IbanezerScrooge, please give us a picture of your child or grandchild hanging out at the library listening to drag queens read stories. We want to see a selfie with the child and the drag queen.