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Thank you for the very thorough and detailed explanation of this view; which is one I've never heard before. It's quite interesting and needs to be studied and analyzed further. Thanks again for sharing.Hi @Daniel&Revelation777 .
Thanks, and you're welcome.
This would take a very long time to explain because most Christians are not taught the proper symbolism of the Serpent...
Revelation 12:15
"And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood."
Christians are almost always looking 'outwardly' for the answers (e.g. current events, empires, world leaders, geopolitics, etc.). They failed to seek the Kingdom of God Within first (i.e., human biology/physiology) and compare Scripture to it.
Matthew 6:33
"But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you."
That is where to find the ultimate Truth. I will show you the 'Meat of the Word' that is never taught.
The Serpent (note it does not say Dragon, there is a difference) in Revelation 12:15 represents a phallus that is casting seminal fluid out of its 'mouth'. That is what the symbolism is ultimately teaching. Words like 'waters', 'flood', 'rivers', etc. have a euphemistic meaning to them.
2 Samuel 22:5
"When the waves of death compassed me, the floods of ungodly men made me afraid"
Seminal fluid may contain a 'flood of ungodly men' in it that have not been conceived yet. Do you understand? Look...
Isaiah 8:7 (New International Version)
“Therefore the Lord is about to bring against them the mighty floodwaters of the Euphrates— the king of Assyria with all his pomp. It will overflow all its channels, run over all its banks.”
The 'mighty floodwaters' refer to the King of Assyria and his army. The symbolism is consistent throughout the Bible. For example, the Masculine Throne (Phallus) in New Jerusalem (Womb) is 'watering' or FERTILIZING the Feminine Tree of Life (Ovary) via the 'Waters' (Seminal Fluid). Why? Because it is all about becoming Born Again... literally.
Thus, the Serpent is trying to cast its 'Serpent Seed' at the Woman on the Moon. Why? The Woman is carrying Abraham's Seed. The Serpent is trying to impregnate her first so that the Woman conceives an 'ungodly man' instead of Isaac, Jacob, David, Jesus, etc. The Serpent is trying to corrupt the lineage from Abraham/Sarah to Joseph/Mary. It is a Seed War. It is describing Biology.
Again, Christians have no idea what they are reading because they are never taught the 'Meat of the Word', i.e. Adult Education. The symbolism is meant for anyone in any timeline to understand using basic human physiology as a guide.
If you are looking for the 'Milk of the Word' understanding, I will post it last.
Using the 'Kingdom of God Within' method of interpretation (as we are instructed to do first), we discover that Earth is anthropomorphized as a 'Mother'. Not just any Mother however, but the BIOLOGICAL MOTHER of the Human Race. That is the symbolism. She represents our corrupt genetics. This is why we need Salvation. It is a Biology issue.
Earthly Jerusalem therefore represents Earth's Womb. The Jerusalem Temple represents the Zygote by which our Temple Body is wrought from. That is what Scripture teaches. We are born from the 'lowest parts of the Earth' (i.e., Most Holy Place)...
Psalms 139:15
"My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth."
Again, it is euphemism. Thus, when Earthly Jerusalem (the 'Womb' of Mystery Babylon) 'sits' on a 'Mountain', it is a picture of procreation...
Revelation 17:9
"And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth."
Mountains are also representative of the Male Phallus. And since you now know that the 'Serpent Heads' of the Dragon represent the Male Phallus, you can deduce what the 'Waters' are that she 'sits' on...
Revelation 17:1-2
"And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great harlot that sitteth upon many waters: With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication."
The Harlot 'sits' (fornicates) with the 'heads' (Male Member) by which proceed 'Many Waters' (Seminal Fluid) thus conceiving Seven Kings.
Again, the 'Waters' is a flood of ungodly men before conception...
Revelation 17:15
"And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the harlot sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues."
Christians have no idea that the Peoples, Multitudes, Nations and Tongues are referring to those that she gave birth to! In other words, the entire Human Race.
There is much more of course.
Anyhow, here is something I posted in another thread...
Jerusalem (Judaism) was the spiritual ruler of the known world at that time. The Book of Revelation was written in the 60s AD, so it was in the present tense. Jerusalem was still standing.The Angel told John that the "Great City" RULES (present tense) over the Kings of the Earth. What City was ruling over the Kings of the Earth in John's day? Rome.
The Romans mostly left the Jews alone.Was Jerusalem ruling the Kings of the Earth at that time or was it being ruled by the Romans?
Jerusalem was a Roman Province being governed by puppet Kings for the Roman Empire. Technically, Jesus wasn't crucified in Jerusalem but outside of the city at a place called Golgotha.
The great city is being likened spiritually to sodom (a city) and Egypt (a NATION) where also Jesus was crucified. so whichever way we want to look at it, Jesus was crucified within a Roman province, which was part of the Roman Empire, of which its capital was Rome, Italy; which ruled over the Kings of the earth.
Apocalyptic language is mostly not literal.If you disagree, please show when in history did Jerusalem rule over the Kings of the earth prior to or after its destruction in 70 AD...
Also please explain how Jerusalem being destroyed causes the great merchants of the earth became rich from the abundance of her delicacies and how they weep and wail at her destruction because no one buys their merchandise anymore; and how the ships of the sea stand afar watching for fear of her torment?
Jerusalem is the harlot. Jerusalem is Mystery Babylon. Jerusalem/Jews rejected its own Messiah. The Bible is mostly about spiritual things.The reason the Mother harlot is called Mystery BABYLON the great, is because it was to rule over the then known world at that time JUST as ancient Babylon did when it conquered the surrounding Nations and ruled them with an iron rod. Ancient Babylon also destroyed Jerusalem. We see Rome accomplished both these feats.
You are mistaken about the Catholic Church. We have had good popes and bad popes, just as Jesus had his Judas in his own time, just as the apostles had their own betrayers.Old covenant Israel and Jerusalem were referred to as a Harlot because of their wicked deeds, idolatry, and worship of false gods, they were unfaithful. In the same way, part of New Covenant Israel (The Christian Church) would also be unfaithful and become the Mother of Harlots through the Roman Catholic Papacy which mixes Paganism with Christianity, and also historically persecuted the Saints through the dark ages and the inqusition.
The prominent Jews were wealthy. Their seaport/harbor was Jaffa-Joppa. The Jews imported many things from foreign countries which made these foreign merchants wealthy. The Jews provided their own goods to sell to these foreign merchants, who then re-sold them to others.@Jan001, I want to make a correction to my previous post... I meant to say Judea was a Roman Province not Jerusalem. Also I'd like to clarify my question better: "please explain how Jerusalem fits the description about the great merchants of the earth becoming rich from the abundance of her delicacies, and how they weep and wail at her destruction since no one buys their merchandise anymore; and how the ships of the sea stand far off watching for fear of her torment?
This is pure conjecture with no supportable scriptural evidence to back it up. The symbology of the book of revelation deals with literal historical events & their fulfillment and NOT Spiritual ruling. The 7 Mountains were interpreted by the Angel to be 7 "Kings." Do Kings have Kingdoms? Many times in the old testament Mountains are symbolic of Kingdoms/Nations: …Jerusalem (Judaism) was the spiritual ruler of the known world at that time. Apocalyptic language is mostly not literal. A spiritual ruling is what is meant.
The cities of Jerusalem and pagan Rome were both literally associated with seven mountains. Yes, it can also mean seven kings.This is pure conjecture with no supportable scriptural evidence to back it up. The symbology of the book of revelation deals with literal historical events & their fulfillment and NOT Spiritual ruling. The 7 Mountains were interpreted by the Angel to be 7 "Kings." Do Kings have Kingdoms? Many times in the old testament Mountains are symbolic of Kingdoms/Nations: …
The Book of Revelation is mostly about God's relationship with the Jews.Jeremiah 51:24-25
Before your very eyes I will repay Babylon and all the dwellers of Chaldea for all the evil they have done in Zion,” declares the LORD.
25“Behold, I am against you, O destroying MOUNTAIN, you who devastate the whole earth, declares the LORD. I will stretch out My hand against you; I will roll you over the cliffs and turn you into a charred mountain.
Revelation 17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
The seven mountains identify where the woman sits - Rome.
And there are seven kings associated with the place where the woman sits - Rome
Revelation 17 is not about "the rich history of the Old Testament and everything the Israelites went through".
Thank you for the very thorough and detailed explanation of this view; which is one I've never heard before. It's quite interesting and needs to be studied and analyzed further. Thanks again for sharing.
I respectfully disagree Jan001. We don't get to pick and choose unsupportable interpretations of what the mountains represent; especially since the Angel and the old testament, already irrefutably prove that Mountains are symbolic of Kingdoms (which naturally have Kings/Kingships). So the Angel is NOT saying that the 7 Mountains are 7 literal dirt & rock mountains BUT KINGDOMS. That's why he says "They are also 7 Kings" because Kingdoms have Kings. So it's not that "it can also mean seven kings" as you erroneously claim, but it's the exact meaning: 7 Mountains = 7 Kings/Kingdoms."The cities of Jerusalem and pagan Rome were both literally associated with seven mountains. Yes, it can also mean seven kings."
You have your opinion. Not everyone agrees with you.I respectfully disagree Jan001. We don't get to pick and choose unsupportable interpretations of what the mountains represent; especially since the Angel and the old testament, already irrefutably prove that Mountains are symbolic of Kingdoms (which naturally have Kings/Kingships). So the Angel is NOT saying that the 7 Mountains are 7 literal dirt & rock mountains BUT KINGDOMS. That's why he says "They are also 7 Kings" because Kingdoms have Kings. So it's not that "it can also mean seven kings" as you erroneously claim, but it's the exact meaning: 7 Mountains = 7 Kings/Kingdoms.
I think it was seven Caesars. The Book of Revelation was written during the reign of Nero, the antichrist.If you disagree, then please explain what the Angel means when he says "5 have fallen, ONE IS, and the other has not yet come, and when he comes, he must remain a short time." Did 5 of the literal mounds of dirt and rock fall from their places? Was there only ONE mountain at the time John received the message? What about the one that has not yet come? It obviously wasn't there per the Words of the Angel.
Like I said before, this is your opinion.We can see the absurdity of this position, which is clearly refuted by the scriptures themselves when we employ hermeneutics & proper exegesis.
The rest of your explanation is more eisegeses through conjecture.
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