Hi
@Daniel&Revelation777 .
This is extremely interesting Qubit. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks, and you're welcome.
How does this tie in with Revelation 13 when the Dragon spews water out of his mouth like a river/flood after the Woman, but then the EARTH opens its mouth to swallow the flood so that the Woman can flee into the desert/wilderness?
This would take a very long time to explain because most Christians are not taught the proper symbolism of the Serpent...
Revelation 12:15
"And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood."
Christians are almost always looking 'outwardly' for the answers (e.g. current events, empires, world leaders, geopolitics, etc.). They failed to seek the Kingdom of God
Within first (i.e., human biology/physiology) and compare Scripture to it.
Matthew 6:33
"But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you."
That is where to find the ultimate Truth. I will show you the 'Meat of the Word' that is never taught.
The Serpent (note it does not say Dragon, there is a difference) in Revelation 12:15 represents a phallus that is casting seminal fluid out of its 'mouth'. That is what the symbolism is ultimately teaching. Words like 'waters', 'flood', 'rivers', etc. have a euphemistic meaning to them.
2 Samuel 22:5
"When the waves of death compassed me, the floods of ungodly men made me afraid"
Seminal fluid may contain a 'flood of ungodly men' in it that have not been conceived yet. Do you understand? Look...
Isaiah 8:7 (New International Version)
“Therefore the Lord is about to bring against them the mighty floodwaters of the Euphrates— the king of Assyria with all his pomp. It will overflow all its channels, run over all its banks.”
The 'mighty floodwaters' refer to the King of Assyria and his army. The symbolism is consistent throughout the Bible. For example, the Masculine Throne (Phallus) in New Jerusalem (Womb) is 'watering' or FERTILIZING the Feminine Tree of Life (Ovary) via the 'Waters' (Seminal Fluid). Why? Because it is all about becoming Born Again... literally.
Thus, the Serpent is trying to cast its 'Serpent Seed' at the Woman on the Moon. Why?
The Woman is carrying Abraham's Seed. The Serpent is trying to impregnate her first so that the Woman conceives an 'ungodly man' instead of Isaac, Jacob, David, Jesus, etc. The Serpent is trying to corrupt the lineage from Abraham/Sarah to Joseph/Mary.
It is a Seed War. It is describing Biology.
Again, Christians have no idea what they are reading because they are never taught the 'Meat of the Word', i.e. Adult Education. The symbolism is meant for anyone in any timeline to understand using basic human physiology as a guide.
If you are looking for the 'Milk of the Word' understanding, I will post it last.
Are you saying that the "Earth" refers specifically of Jerusalem and/or the Kingdom of Judea? Please share more....
Using the 'Kingdom of God Within' method of interpretation (as we are instructed to do first), we discover that Earth is anthropomorphized as a 'Mother'. Not just any Mother however, but the
BIOLOGICAL MOTHER of the Human Race. That is the symbolism. She represents our corrupt genetics. This is why we need Salvation. It is a Biology issue.
Earthly Jerusalem therefore represents Earth's Womb. The Jerusalem Temple represents the Zygote by which our Temple Body is wrought from. That is what Scripture teaches. We are born from the 'lowest parts of the Earth' (i.e., Most Holy Place)...
Psalms 139:15
"My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth."
Again, it is euphemism. Thus, when Earthly Jerusalem (the 'Womb' of Mystery Babylon) 'sits' on a 'Mountain', it is a picture of procreation...
Revelation 17:9
"And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth."
Mountains are also representative of the Male Phallus. And since you now know that the 'Serpent Heads' of the Dragon represent the Male Phallus, you can deduce what the 'Waters' are that she 'sits' on...
Revelation 17:1-2
"And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great harlot that sitteth upon many waters: With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication."
The Harlot 'sits' (fornicates) with the 'heads' (Male Member) by which proceed 'Many Waters' (Seminal Fluid) thus conceiving Seven Kings.
Again, the 'Waters' is a flood of ungodly men before conception...
Revelation 17:15
"And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the harlot sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues."
Christians have no idea that the Peoples, Multitudes, Nations and Tongues are referring to those that she gave birth to! In other words, the entire Human Race.
There is much more of course.
Anyhow, here is something I posted in another thread...
I am going to post an alternative timeline to Revelation 12 for folks to check out.
Revelation 12:1
"And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:"
I believe the Woman represents Sarah. The Moon represents her Seed (Ovum). The Sun she is clothed with represents Abraham's Seed (Sperm). The entire scene is a picture of Isaac being conceived. The Twelve Stars represent the Twelve Tribes that will eventually come from Abraham and Sarah's Seed.
Sarah gives birth to Isaac, who begins the lineage that leads to the birth of Jesus.
Revelation 12:3-4
"And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born."
Satan is angry that God chose Abraham and Sarah to be the ones whose seed will give rise to the Twelve Tribes and ultimately Jesus. Satan begins to send fallen angels to Earth in preparation for war. I believe Sodom and Gomorrah are connected to this event...
Jude 1:6-7
"And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."
The above verse clearly teaches that Sodom and Gomorrah is one of the places where Angels left their first estate. In other words, they become fallen angels. Note that Michael is at war with Satan during this time...
Jude 1:9
"Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee."
Birth of Issac
Revelation 12:5
"And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne."
The birth of Isaac is symbolic of the birth of Jesus. Jesus mentions this here...
John 8:56
"Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad."
Next...
Revelation 12:6
"And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days."
The Seed of Abraham and Sarah flees to the Wilderness during the Exodus. The birth of Jesus occurs 1,260 years later (day/year principle). The Seed is 'fed' or nurtured through the various men and women of the Old Testament, generation after generation...
Matthew 1:17
"So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations."
War in Heaven
Revelation 12:7
"And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,"
Again, this war most likely happened during Sodom and Gomorrah.
Revelation 12:9
"And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."
A perfect fit for the Dragon cast to Earth is Pharaoh..
Ezekiel 29:3
"Speak, and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, Pharaoh king of Egypt, the great dragon that lieth in the midst of his rivers, which hath said, My river is mine own, and I have made it for myself."
Pharaoh is the King of Egypt, the first 'head' of the Dragon. He goes after Abraham and Sarah's Seed...
Revelation 12:13
"And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child."
As mentioned already, the Woman flees to the Wilderness of Exodus...
Revelation 12:14
"And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent."
Abraham and Sarah's Seed is nourished in the wombs of the various women throughout the Old Testament (1,260 years). The Seed is also symbolized by the various Tabernacles and Temples.
Revelation 12:15
"And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood."
The above verse symbolizes the Red Sea that was in the way of the Israelites.
The Red Sea is parted...
Revelation 12:16
"And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth."
Revelation 12:17
"And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ."
Satan is angry and continues the war against Abraham and Sarah's Seed through the various Antichrists throughout the Old Testament...
- King of Egypt
- King of Assyria
- King of Babylon
- King of Medo-Persia
- King of Greece
- King of Rome
- TBD
And there you have it. The rich and incredible history of the Israelites and the Old Testament is no longer marginalized and thrown into the garbage as so many Christians have done by placing Revelation 12 later in the timeline (or even future).
'Her Seed' represents Abraham's Seed, not Mary's Seed. The Redeemed are grafted into Her Seed...
Galatians 3:29
"And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise."
The Promise is through Sarah, not Mary...
Galatians 4:26
"But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all."
Therefore, I believe Revelation 12 may be interpreted as already happened long ago.