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Basic Instructions Before Leaving EarthYes .. the Bible a major source for causing many of the world's disagreements.
And how does the master of nonsensical, incoherent, illogical and irrational posts classify these comments under your "heuristics".Maybe you need to see my standards again then:
1. Bible says x, Science says x = go with x
2. Bible says x, Science says y = go with x
3. Bible says x, Science says ø = go with x
4. Bible says ø, Science says x = go with x
5. Bible says ø, Science says ø = free to speculate on your own
Prime Directive: Under no circumstances whatsoever is the Bible to be contradicted.
I reject things because the BIBLE rejects them.
To which you replied the Old Testament is basically irrelevant compared to the New Testament.Bible says adultery and fornication are punishable by death.
AV says adultery and fornication need a lesser punishment.
Adultery and fornication?
Is that the best you can come up with?
Shouldn't I be submitting lambs and goats and bullocks to a high priest for sacrifice as well?
And ... get this ... I just recently celebrated Easter.
Not Passover!
.. such a hurry to leave the place we rely on for our existence!Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth
Maybe you need to see my standards again then:
1. Bible says x, Science says x = go with x
2. Bible says x, Science says y = go with x
3. Bible says x, Science says ø = go with x
4. Bible says ø, Science says x = go with x
5. Bible says ø, Science says ø = free to speculate on your own
Prime Directive: Under no circumstances whatsoever is the Bible to be contradicted.
I reject things because the BIBLE rejects them.
I take all of the Bible literally, do I?You reject things because your interpretation of the Bible disagrees with them, at least that's how it seems to me. Plenty of people (such as my husband) have no problem with understanding that the Bible isn't always meant to be taken literally, and so have no problem with their faith coexisting with their acceptance of the real world evidence.
I take all of the Bible literally, do I?
Yes -- the Bible is to be taken literally, but It does contain some allegory as well.
Galatians 4:24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
As long as it doesn't contradict the Bible ...Luckily, you somehow know how to correctly determine which bits are allegorical and which are literal...
And how does the allegory fit into your standards?
If the Bible says it, but it's allegorical, and science says something different, then... what?
As long as it doesn't contradict the Bible ...
Nope, you reject them because you misunderstand the bible.Maybe you need to see my standards again then:
1. Bible says x, Science says x = go with x
2. Bible says x, Science says y = go with x
3. Bible says x, Science says ø = go with x
4. Bible says ø, Science says x = go with x
5. Bible says ø, Science says ø = free to speculate on your own
Prime Directive: Under no circumstances whatsoever is the Bible to be contradicted.
I reject things because the BIBLE rejects them.
What's "them"? my standards?Nope, you reject them because you misunderstand the bible.
Whatever you mean by ‘things’ in the post of yours I replied to, where you say you ‘reject things’.What's "them"? my standards?
Why would I reject them?
If science says there was no Exodus, and the Bible devotes a whole book to the Exodus, what am I misunderstanding?Whatever you mean by ‘things’ in the post of yours I replied to, where you say you ‘reject things’.
Well, you can start with basic questions like who wrote the book of exodus, when it was written, for what purpose and so on. That's a more useful approach than just insisting, for no good reason, that it must all be taken as literal history. Why anyone would take it as such is beyond me, but it seems to be a kind of stubborn tradition that has managed to put down deep roots. I've probably linked to this 3 or 4 times already in similar threads, but it does sum up one possible set of reasons for it quite well: The Wasting of the Evangelical MindIf science says there was no Exodus, and the Bible devotes a whole book to the Exodus, what am I misunderstanding?
Nope, you reject them because you misunderstand the bible.
If science says there was no Exodus, and the Bible devotes a whole book to the Exodus, what am I misunderstanding?
I assume then that YOU have done that as well?Well, you can start with basic questions like who wrote the book of exodus, when it was written, for what purpose and so on.
My response was specific enough. Rather than deflecting and trying to push the argument back into another cul-de-sac of meaningless platitudes and ‘just because’ statements, you could consider the specific questions in my last post.I assume then that YOU have done that as well?
So why didn't you tell me what I'm misunderstanding?
I'll ask again:
If science says there was no Exodus, and the Bible devotes a whole book to the Exodus, what am I misunderstanding?
Be specific please.
Better yet, I'll just take your point with a grain of salt, how's that?My response was specific enough. Rather than deflecting and trying to push the argument back into another cul-de-sac of meaningless platitudes and ‘just because’ statements, you could consider the specific questions in my last post.
Which point?Better yet, I'll just take your point with a grain of salt, how's that?
If you took your own advice about the book of Exodus, I'm Genghis Khan.
Wow.Which point?
I made a few different points, which one were you referring to?Wow.
Have a nice day, Tom.
If I may ask though, do you have a college degree?
If so, what area of expertise is it in?
Tom, you said I reject things from my own standards because I "misunderstand the Bible."I made a few different points, which one were you referring to?
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