my take on what would be helpful with guns

[Desk trauma]

What part of that post do you ave an issue with?

It puts forward zero good ideas.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Do you think a FFL dealer is going to sell a gun to someone without waiting 10 days if there is a federal law that requires it?

If there was a law that required you to secure all guns in your home from minors and those not allowed to possess a gun, with the penalty for breaking such a law being a felony charge, forfeiture of all of your guns, the inability to purchase a gun in the future, and the possibility of an active prison sentence, would you choose not to follow it?

No, I am saying that if it is a ten day waiting period at that time will be up.

 

[Desk trauma]

But if Americans are not willing to embrace change in their need to be an armed population nothing with change.

Hence why nothing is going to change.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Yes, I would.

But the law would be if anyone, anywhere under the age limit anywhere got access to your not fully legally secured firearm, then doing something bad with it, you'd be held just as much equally accountable/responsible for whatever happened with it, etc.

There are already some laws to that affact; except that they are not held with the same charge.

 

[Desk trauma]

What good would 30 years from now do NOW though people are always complaining about NOW not 30 years from now.

Guess we should have not bothered with eradicating smallpox.

 

[dogs4thewin]

It puts forward zero good ideas.

He asked what would be good about registertion?

 

[Neogaia777]

Except that they are not held with the same charge.

If they were, then some people might think twice about it.

 

[Desk trauma]

He asked what would be good about registertion?

I was replying to your post not theirs.

 

[Desk trauma]

why that assumes that people OBAY those laws. which in the vast majority of cases the person either does not care or the time would be up

Just like how car seat laws have been totally ignored and had zero effect on child fatalities in car wrecks.

 

[dogs4thewin]

If they were, then some people might think twice about it.

Remember, too we would be paying for that .

 

[Neogaia777]

If they were, then some people might think twice about it.

I think it's the difference between being a responsible mature gun owner, and not being one, etc.

And if your not one, then maybe you shouldn't be allowed to have any guns either, etc.

God Bless.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Just like how car seat laws have been totally ignored and had zero effect on child fatalities in car wrecks.

Funny you should mention that because seat belts also take lives fewer than they save ys, but take lives nonetheless

 

[BNR32FAN]

With youths it's pretty easy. Just simply raise the legal age limit, and then threaten to put whomever's firearm it was that the youths got a hold of to do something like this, when something like this happens, hold those individuals that they got the unsecured firearm from just as much equally accountable as if they were the shooter themselves when something like this happens, etc. Very long prison sentences for them potentially if necessary, etc. And fully enforce and fully follow through with that when something like this happens with very little to no excuses/exceptions regarding this no matter what, etc.

Either keep your firearms very, very much securely secured from all of the people under the age limit, or face the same kinds of consequences as if you were the shooter themselves if they get ahold of yours and do something like this with it. It's either that, or let the government completely take away all of your firearms completely if you can't do that, or if it's juat too inconvenient for you to do that, or you just don't want to be bothered with it, etc.

I would agree with this provided that if the person who owned the gun had it securely locked in a safe, if that safe was forcibly opened then he should not be charged for the incident. But I do agree that people who own guns and don’t secure them should be held responsible if someone gets it and commits a crime with it.

 

[dogs4thewin]

I think it's the difference between being a responsible, mature gun owner, and not being one, etc.

And if your not one, then maybe you shouldn't be allowed to have any guns either, etc.

God Bless.

I personally own no guns as my eyesight and motor skills would make that unsafe.

 

[Desk trauma]

Funny you should mention that because seat belts also take lives fewer than they save ys, but take lives nonetheless

What happened to laws being useless because some will ignore them?

 

[dogs4thewin]

Citation needed.

citation of what?

 

[dogs4thewin]

What happened to laws being useless because some will ignore them?

That law is enforced secondaryly for the most part.

 

[Desk trauma]

citation of what?

I misread your post and deleted when I noticed.

 

[Neogaia777]

It's not hard to secure your firearms, or keep them secure, but it's just sheer immaturity/laziness/irresponsibility just because "you don't want to", or don't want to have to bother with that extra or another step, etc.

Doesn't seem to matter to your lazy butt that it could save a lot of lives, etc.

For that reason alone I think you should have all your firearms taken away, etc.

 

[dogs4thewin]

I would agree with this provided that if the person who owned the gun had it securely locked in a safe, if that safe was forcibly opened then he should not be charged for the incident. But I do agree that people who own guns and don’t secure them should be held responsible if someone gets it and commits a crime with it.

thank you people should NOT be held liable if they took reasonable steps