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Traci, you are such a cutie. I'm so jealous 
This one counts for me as both around the house and hanging with friends:
And usually the cat is included, at least at home.
It's also the only picture I have with me right now
This one counts for me as both around the house and hanging with friends:
And usually the cat is included, at least at home.
It's also the only picture I have with me right now
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Traci, you are such a cutie. I'm so jealous
This one counts for me as both around the house and hanging with friends:
And usually the cat is included, at least at home.
It's also the only picture I have with me right now
Can't really see you- but your cat is precious!
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Can't really see you- but your cat is precious!
I lack your confidence with posting my picture online
My cat is adorable though, so he has no problem with his picture being shown
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I lack your confidence with posting my picture online
My cat is adorable though, so he has no problem with his picture being shown
Yeah, I'm probably extremely naive about this, but I just don't have a lot of fear posting pictures online. I figure there are tons of youtube stars that are literally famous for posting pictures and videos online and they're fine.
I wish you could hide your image from people in person, though
That's where I have problems.
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Yeah, I'm probably extremely naive about this, but I just don't have a lot of fear posting pictures online. I figure there are tons of youtube stars that are literally famous for posting pictures and videos online and they're fine.
I wish you could hide your image from people in person, though
I'm actually not worried in person. We're opposites!
People have to be brave to insult or denigrate in person. Online anyone can do it. I actually feel safer in person, most of the time.
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I'm actually not worried in person. We're opposites!
People have to be brave to insult or denigrate in person. Online anyone can do it. I actually feel safer in person, most of the time.
Ah- that's why. I really don't mind when people try to make fun or me. What I hate is catcalling, guys following me, or attempting to touch me- and that's only happened to me in person. I hate being in crowds for that reason.
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I see. I don't usually get attention like that, so I don't have that issue. It must be pretty awful though.
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I see. I don't usually get attention like that, so I don't have that issue. It must be pretty awful though.
I do. I have to carry a stick with me at all times to keep the women beat off of me.
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I do. I have to carry a stick with me at all times to keep the women beat off of me.
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I can understand the temptation. You are dangerously cute.
But from what I have seen of your taste in clothes only a fool would try over the top wolf whistles and the like.
BUT all the 'what is a nice girl like you doing in a place like this' comments are your own fault.
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Naw. It's a strange mentality that makes guys catcall and make comments. It doesn't work-- they know it doesn't work. But it does get a reaction-- not a good one-- but a reaction. It makes them feel like they have a certain power over the girl. It has nothing to do with the girl really. A guy who catcalls is gonna catcall no matter what.
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I'm not sure I fully understand your comment. It sounds like you're saying the comments I receive are because I go places I shouldn't be in. I'm responding to that, and if that's not what you meant I apologize.
The instances in which I have been cat-called, harassed, or touched have been in crowded, densely populated areas. Examples: walking around the busy streets of New York or Key West, walking around the Mall of America, or at theme parks. I dress fashionably and modestly, but I have a more womanly figure that I cannot (and do not) go out of my way to disguise.
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Even if these things would have been happening to me in a bar or any other seemingly unsavory place, it does not make it my fault. We are all responsible for our own actions and harassment or unwanted touching is NEVER okay, no matter what the harasser says illicted that response. I am really disturbed when I see that kind of mentality.
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