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My simple proof that God's Will is not always performed

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Exactly..
 
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Mark Quayle

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If you are referring to Der Alte's post, no, that is not what he showed. In fact, he showed just the opposite. Repeatedly he asked, "literally.... the whole world?"

Further to say it is 'Crazy to substitute the "non-Jewish Elect" for "the whole world"', (I suppose you are characterizing meaning or use as "substituting" but, ok), is a bit of unnecessary insult, to put it kindly. You would do better to show why it is wrong, or even crazy, if you think it really is, than to merely say it. You, in spite of all your posts, have not even shown it wrong.
 
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Mark 11:23-24 was given in answer to why the fig tree withered up after He cursed it. He is talking about using the spoken word with faith as a power tool. The faith portion requires knowing something is God's Will. This is a hard saying.

Again you use the vague, "God's will". Do you mean by that, "The faith portion requires knowing something is 'what God has planned as certainly going to happen'", or do you mean, "The faith portion requires knowing something is 'what God wishes would happen'", or do you mean "The faith portion requires knowing something is 'what desperately must happen and that for whatever reason God has placed me into the position of being instrumental in bringing it about'", or what do you mean, exactly? Does "God's will" always mean all those things and more?

Vagueness complicates. And no, I am not saying that we must know exactly what a thing means [I certainly do not have to accept a final analysis on just about anything], but I do study to find out as much as I reasonably can, to know him as well as I can.
 
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You seem to get a bit of spiritual indigestion at what appears to you a contradiction, if not with reason itself, at least between two well-known Calvinists. I do not argue against altar calls, though I do against the assumption that the integrity of man's decision is the hinge upon which his eternal destiny turns, just as would both Spurgeon and White. I have not read your quote from White in context, but knowing the man, I can well guess he meant more than simply "altar calls are worthless and unbiblical". Notice his use of 'freewill decision' and '...nor does He....try to...'. White believes God does not "try" to do anything as though the subsequent failure was not his plan --but that he simply "does", or "does not"
 
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Incorrect!
The Greek word "kosmos" does mean world but it, as with several other words, is used hyperbolically, see the vss. I quoted above.
My point was that how a word is used in a few instances does not change its inherent meaning.
 
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