My Sandwich Challenge

[Hans Blaster]

Only known by whom?

Doesn't that assertion require that one make biased assumptions?

Do you know of some other place in the Universe with sandwiches other than Earth? Or is your hypothetical universe not here on Earth?

 

[Hans Blaster]

Let me see if I'm getting this straight. Are you saying that if I didn't personally create something that exists; then it is a non-created object? Most of the objects that I hold every day were created by other people.



My universe is not hypothetical.

Oh, so we are on Earth then.

What's the point of your OP then?

 

[AV1611VET]

Do you know of some other place in the Universe with sandwiches other than Earth? Or is your hypothetical universe not here on Earth?

 

[mama2one]

I created a apple butter sandwich. My sandwich is part of the Universe.
Question: In this act, did I create the Universe?

no, the Universe already existed

btw, I created a sandwich which I eat daily & helped me lose wt:
grilled sandwich of thin baby swiss, sliced onion, and tomato then topped with mustard

 

[HARK!]

Do you know of some other place in the Universe with sandwiches other than Earth? Or is your hypothetical universe not here on Earth?

My Universe includes Earth; but I wouldn't be so presumptuous as to believe that sandwiches only exists on earth, nor that Earthlings are the only beings in the universe who have knowledge of them.

I guess you could call me somewhat of an 'extraterrestrial sandwich sentient being' Agnostic.

I'll believe it when I see it; but in the mean time (in logical objectivity) I won't rule it out.

 

[HARK!]

Oh, so we are on Earth then.

Excellent!

What's the point of your OP then?

To poll those who read my OP.

Did you vote?

 

[HARK!]

no, the Universe already existed

Science Proves Creation

 

[AV1611VET]

My Universe includes Earth; but I wouldn't be so presumptuous as to believe that apple butter only exists on earth, nor that Earthlings are the only beings in the universe who have knowledge of it.

The original Dave's cosmic subs:

It's out of this world!

 

[AV1611VET]

Just funnin' with ya, HARK!

 

[HARK!]

Just funnin' with ya, HARK!

That was fun.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Excellent!



To poll those who read my OP.

Did you vote?

Not for ten days.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Science Proves Creation

No. Really, it doesn't.

 

[Lulav]

I cringe when someone puts an ess on the end of HEAVEN in Genesis 1:1.

Why? That's the proper way to translate the Hebrew.
Ha (the) Shamayim (heavens)

'im' is a masculine plural.

 

[Lulav]

Here it is: Kylie's Apple Challenge

Thanks, I thought I was losing my mind, I searched all the posts you made in this thread.

 

[Lulav]

Then the answer to the title question requires more information. Did you also make the plate the sandwich is on and thus the whole sandwich-plate universe. [Set theory is fun!]

Sandwiches don't include plates.
They can be served on a napkin, a paper towel, a piece of wood or just in your hand. There is no rule that a sandwich needs to be on a plate, or anything for that matter.

 

[Lulav]

The OP doesn't specify, but since sandwiches and apple butter are only known to exist on Earth, one can presume that the pre-existing material has been part of Earth for 4.5 billion years.

This has nothing to do with what the OP said, YOU said:

As the open of that famous argument about gods goes:

Premise 1: All things that begin to exist began to exist from pre-existing material. (or something like that).

Since you stated that I'm asking YOU where that pre-existing material came from.

 

[SelfSim]

Sandwiches don't include plates.

I've never heard of a model of the universe which specifically parameterises a sandwich for the purpose of polling an audience, either(?)

 

[AV1611VET]

Why? That's the proper way to translate the Hebrew.

Where the Hebrew differs from the King James, the Hebrew is wrong.

Didn't Paul warn that making a word plural can lead to error doctrine?

Galatians 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

It's not until you get to Genesis 2 -- after the Creation Week is complete -- that God mentions the heavens plural.

Genesis 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

 

[AV1611VET]

I've never heard of a model of the universe which specifically parameterises a sandwich for the purpose of polling an audience, either(?)

Let's ask him, shall we?

I couldn't agree more. It's as though there is no possible way to show that story ever even happened. One could say that this is, in fact, good reason to believe it didn't happen. But please, by all means, don't let reality get in the way of your beliefs.

 

[HARK!]

Where the Hebrew differs from the King James, the Hebrew is wrong.

Didn't Paul warn that making a word plural can lead to error doctrine?

Galatians 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

It's not until you get to Genesis 2 -- after the Creation Week is complete -- that God mentions the heavens plural.

Genesis 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

I'd be happy to help you out with this post, if you start a thread on the subject in General Theology.