My Raisin Bread Challenge

[Skavau]

I tend to believe we should follow the Bible. For me the diet prescribed by Moses looks very much like the diet prescribed by the American Heart Association. If you want good heath then you need to eat right and do what the Bible says to do. If you do not follow the Bible then do not expect to live as long and do not expect to be as healthy as you would or you could be. People say we do not need to follow the Bible. Yet they are dropping like flies from sickness and disease.

Good Diet =/= Following the Bible

 

[Jamin4422]

Good Diet =/= Following the Bible

How would you know when science lies so much about what a good diet is.

Victoria Innes-Brown has done us all a great favor by publishing the findings of her experiments. Over a two and a half-year period, she performed a set of meticulous and detailed animal experiments, documenting the horrific effects of using aspartame liquid comparable to diet soda.​

A whopping 67 percent of the female rats developed tumors the size of golf balls or larger! Some of the tumors were the size of the palm of her hand. After feeding rats NutraSweet daily for 30 months: Twenty-one percent of the males on aspartame developed tumors.​

 

[Skavau]

How would you know when science lies so much about what a good diet is.

Victoria Innes-Brown has done us all a great favor by publishing the findings of her experiments. Over a two and a half-year period, she performed a set of meticulous and detailed animal experiments, documenting the horrific effects of using aspartame liquid comparable to diet soda.​

A whopping 67 percent of the female rats developed tumors the size of golf balls or larger! Some of the tumors were the size of the palm of her hand. After feeding rats NutraSweet daily for 30 months: Twenty-one percent of the males on aspartame developed tumors.​

I'm not sure anyone as part of a good diet tries to encourage drinking diet soda, nor does anyone involved in science that's serious advocate diet soda as a good part of diet.

Nice try though. You understand that there are plenty of people outside of Christianity that live well and long due to good diets?

 

[AV1611VET]

Good Diet =/= Following the Bible

Following the Bible → Good Diet

 

[Wiccan_Child]

Following the Bible → Good Diet

Isn't the US one of the most Christian and one of the most obese country in the world? I don't think one leads to the other.

Though maybe that's the test. If "Following the Bible → Good Diet", then "Bad Diet → Not Following the Bible". So all Christians are health nuts? By their fruits, indeed....

 

[Jro]

edit: double post what is up with that

 

[Jro]

My diet is composed almost entirely of raisin bread. Is this biblical, y/n?

 

[AV1611VET]

Isn't the US one of the most Christian and one of the most obese country in the world?

Yes

I don't think one leads to the other.

Everyone in this country follows the Bible, do they? no atheists here?

 

[Wiccan_Child]

Yes

Everyone in this country follows the Bible, do they? no atheists here?

Depends on who you talk to, some people genuinely think atheists are secretly Satanists.

 

[AV1611VET]

Depends on who you talk to, some people genuinely think atheists are secretly Satanists.

I'll assume you answered NO.

 

[CabVet]

Yes

Everyone in this country follows the Bible, do they? no atheists here?

Funny though is that the most religious states (you know, the red ones) tend to be the most obese. Also very interesting is how the countries with best diets, longer-lived people and lower obesity percentages are not Christian at all (Japan always topping that list).

 

[Jamin4422]

Nice try though. You understand that there are plenty of people outside of Christianity that live well and long due to good diets?

Do you mean calling yourself a Christian does not make you immune? You mean people actually have to live the life that Jesus calls us to live. Here I thought we could just live whatever sort of life we want to live, call ourselves a Christian and get away with it.

 

[Jamin4422]

very interesting is how the countries with best diets, longer-lived people and lower obesity percentages are not Christian at all

There is a reason why the Chinese call them Tiger Woman. It is not just because of their tatoo.

 

[Standing_Ultraviolet]

Funny though is that the most religious states (you know, the red ones) tend to be the most obese. Also very interesting is how the countries with best diets, longer-lived people and lower obesity percentages are not Christian at all (Japan always topping that list).

There are definitely cultural factors to it, although it really has everything to do with health and lifestyle choices in different parts of the world, and little to do with religious strictures.

At any rate, while following Biblical prohibitions on overeating would definitely reduce the overall rate of obesity (as would following the obvious medical logic that overeating is bad for you), I don't think that we need to look for justifications for Old Testament law codes on food. It screams too much of trying to look for things in the Bible that really aren't there. Some of the foods involved may have been banned partially for health-related reasons (I'm looking at you, disease infested improperly cooked shellfish), and other for strictly religious reasons. It's been more than three thousand years, after all, in a region with relatively limited writing outside of Egypt. We have no way of guessing what the cultural climate was, or what meaning different food laws would have had for the ancient Jews when they weren't explicitly spelled out. At some point, we just have to accept that, while there are many good theories (and some much more questionable ones) regarding the reasons for individual food laws, the actual reason is hidden from us by a time period roughly half the age of agricultural civilization. It's only a step above trying to trace the origin of the Odin's Cross back to the Proto-Indo-Europeans, and figuring out what it meant to them.

 

[CabVet]

There is a reason why the Chinese call them Tiger Woman. It is not just because of their tatoo.

No, that is not the reason. The real reason is a very disproportional distribution of wealth. Did you know, for example, that the "Christian" US of A dumps more food in the trash per year than most other countries consume?

40% of U.S. food wasted, report says – This Just In - CNN.com Blogs

 

[AV1611VET]

Funny though is that the most religious states (you know, the red ones) tend to be the most obese. Also very interesting is how the countries with best diets, longer-lived people and lower obesity percentages are not Christian at all (Japan always topping that list).

What's your point? that I should stop following the Bible, if I want to lose weight?

 

[Tiberius]

I create a loaf of raisin bread ex nihilo.

Am I being deceptive? if so, how?

A few questions to clarify...

1. How long ago did you create this loaf?
2. If I was to examine the loaf, how old would it appear to be? (is it stale, or moldy, for example?)

If the answer to Question 1 is different to the answer to Question 2, I'll add a third question:

If you wanted to, would you have been able to make the loaf APPEAR to be the age it actually is?

 

[AV1611VET]

* Bumped for RealityCheck01 *

 

[Kylie]

I have some thoughts about this, but I have to wait for them to coalesce into proper questions.

In the meantime, I notice that you haven't answered Tiberius' questions, and I too would be interested in hearing your answer.

 

[AV1611VET]

I have some thoughts about this, but I have to wait for them to coalesce into proper questions.

In the meantime, I notice that you haven't answered Tiberius' questions, and I too would be interested in hearing your answer.

A few questions to clarify...

1. How long ago did you create this loaf?
2. If I was to examine the loaf, how old would it appear to be? (is it stale, or moldy, for example?)

If the answer to Question 1 is different to the answer to Question 2, I'll add a third question:

If you wanted to, would you have been able to make the loaf APPEAR to be the age it actually is?

1. For the sake of my point, we'll pretend I'll do it tomorrow.

2. I have no idea. (it is nice and warm and fresher than any you've ever analyzed.)