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My problems with christianity, help me convert!

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Hi Oecleus, here are your "problems."

"Why Christianity? Why not Buddhism? Why not Islam?

An omniscient being in a universe is incapable with freewill. If a being is omniscient then it already knows what I did before I did it and that would mean I had no choice in it at all.

I don't see your point with there being evil in the world because of Gods gift of freewill. When God made us he put in every fault into us, there is no random effect he can give us that will make us create faults on our own.

If I choose good actions i still am highly likely to get bad things to happen to me, what is the sense in that? Why wouldn't you reward the good people and make sure the sinners don't hurt the others.

Heaven and hell also doesn't make sense to me. I can live a perfect life giving to charity, helping every person I can, and never hear of "God's word" and I would end up in hell. But, I could kill millions and millions of people and as long as I believe in Jesus and God I automatically go to heaven.

I have a problem with the laws put forth by the Lord. If I work on a Sabbath I should be stoned? If I am disobedient to my parents I shall be tied to a tree and stoned?

Lastly(Not of my objections but of what I am willing to type), I don't understand the significance of Jesus, God created himself in human form, sacrificed himself in human form, then resurrected himself for what? To take away the bad sins and allow people access to heaven? If he really wanted to, and if he was omnipotent, he would just forgive the sins and be a more reasonable God."


Your first problem is quite valid. If I had been born into a Hindu culture, I probably would not be a christian. So I plead guilty to following the beliefs of my parents and my culture. After I was already a believer, I obtained a very limited knowledge of other religions by skimming through "comparative religion" material calculated to shatter one's faith.

Second problem, omniscience and free will. Again quite valid if you accept the definition of omniscience as God is all knowing and exhaustively knows the past, present and future. But if that doctrine is unwarranted, and does not actually reflect what the Bible teaches, we can adopt another view. Many scholars accept that "omniscience" means God knows all He has chosen to know. This view eliminates the conflict with limited free will. Yes where God has predetermined an outcome, we do not have the power to alter it. But if God has not predetermined who will choose to believe in Jesus, then we can alter the outcome of our life.

Next you do not think God would have allowed "evil" into His creation. And then you assert God Almighty cannot create autonomous beings that can make choices independent of God's programming. This a a very difficult topic to discuss. First lets try and define evil. Lets define it as something that is adverse to my desires. I want to cross the street and it is evil for a beer truck to run me down. So the first point is what we call evil depends on the point of view. What is evil for me might not be evil for you. Picture two soldiers on opposite sides. One fires his rifle at the other. If he strikes his target, the person hit would consider the act evil. But the one firing the shot might simply think he was being a good soldier, protecting the lives of his buddies.
To cut to the chase, when God brings calamity, like a tornado hitting your house, you might call that evil, but if the harsh environment on earth serves God's purpose, then it is not evil in God's eyes. So God's actions which bring about pain, suffering and death seem evil to those experiencing the actions, but which are not evil from God's perspective. In addition to natural calamity, mankind also introduces evil into the world, treating others differently than they would want to be treated. The purpose of the harsh environment invites us to seek God as a refuge. And as you have already heard, the purpose of allowing us to choose or reject options, provides the ability to chose wrongly and cause pain, suffering and death.

Heaven and Hell. Again, your problem stems from a perhaps mistaken view of hell. What if hell provided perfect justice. You receive the exact right amount of punishment for your evil deeds as you deserve, no more and no less. If that describes God's actual hell, then your good man will go to hell because he physically died in unbelief, but he then would get perfect justice.

Does a person who believes in Jesus automatically go to heaven? Nope. Only those believers whose faith is credited as righteousness by God go to heaven. See Matthew 13:20-22 for a description of two types of believers whose faith was not credited as righteousness. One did not believe from the heart, and the other believed "half heartedly" because he also trusted in worldly wealth.

Yes, you should have problems with "the Law" of Moses. It has been replaced with the Law of Christ, and can be summed up with this: Love your God with all your heart and love others as you love yourself.

And finally you last problem is God should have done it differently, in a more "reasonable" manner. Perhaps, but God chose the redemption plan and brought it about at great cost. His purpose is to choose for Himself a people for His own possession, that we might proclaim His excellencies, who has called us out of darkness into His marvelous light. Jesus paid the price, the ransom, so that we might obtain forgiveness of sin, if we trust in Jesus and His sacrifice.
 
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The existence of God can not be proven by any test that would stand up to any scientific scrutiny- these arguments in defense of a Christian God are just philosophical arguments, and philosophical arguments can never be proven. They always have a counterpoint.

Anyone who says the existence of God can be proven does not understand the scientific process, or does not care to.
 
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Why Christianity? Why not Buddhism? Why not Islam?

All other forms of religion are man's attempt to reach up to God/enlightenment through Works. Christianity is Gods attempt to reach out to Man. In all other accounts of the various original doctrines, Man interprets for God.(None of the other "prophets" claim to be God.) in Christianity God (Jesus) interprets His will to Man.

If you believe in God wouldn't it make sense to worship in the way God Himself has prepared for us to worship?

An omniscient being in a universe is incapable with freewill. If a being is omniscient then it already knows what I did before I did it and that would mean I had no choice in it at all.

I don't see your point with there being evil in the world because of Gods gift of freewill. When God made us he put in every fault into us, there is no random effect he can give us that will make us create faults on our own.
Just a few definitions first.

Sin, is anything not in the expressed will of God.

Evil, is malicious intent to commit sin.

Not all sin is evil but all evil is sin.

Free will is our ability to choose something not in the expressed will of God.. In essence it the ability to sin.

Why would God give us this ability? So that we may be able to Choose whether or not we want to be in His presents for the rest of eternity.. In order for their to be a choice we must have something to choose from. In this case it is God's will or ours. But, the first time we choose our will over God's it disqualifies us to be with Him. So enter Jesus and his blood sacrifice. His Blood shed on our behalf eliminates all of our sin, leaving only the choice we had made.

So free will is a gift, one that God has made provisions for so when decide to excise our gift, we aren't automatically damned to an eternity in Hell.. That is, if we so choose.


If I choose good actions i still am highly likely to get bad things to happen to me, what is the sense in that? Why wouldn't you reward the good people and make sure the sinners don't hurt the others.

Two thing here, "good" is only a matter of perspective. What maybe considered to be good now, may not be so good in 100 years. Just like handing out cigarettes, brandy and soiled hospital bed linens to the homeless on cold nights, or donating "pick up milk" (Or returned milk from the daily deliveries, remember most homes didn't have a fridge) to orphanages and to the poor. All of these activities were considered saintly 100 years ago, now they'd be considered inhumane treatment.

This is why, our sense of "good" doesn't determine our relationship with God. God is good and if we truly seek to be Good then it is God's will we seek, (All of it) but even so we could never be good enough to earn our way to Heaven.

The second point I'd like to make is that Because we have been given this world and this life to make a "Choice." God has seriously limited His interventions, because what would be the point of being here if every "Free will" decision we make is buffered or rewarded by God? If He didn't pretty soon we would be nothing more than rats in a maze looking for reward.. That's not what any of this is about. That's why We live in a world where our own will takes precedences over that of God. (So that we may be given a real opportunity to choose for ourselves.)

Heaven and hell also doesn't make sense to me. I can live a perfect life giving to charity, helping every person I can, and never hear of "God's word" and I would end up in hell. But, I could kill millions and millions of people and as long as I believe in Jesus and God I automatically go to heaven.

Do you really thing God so foolish? Believing in Jesus is not an escape clause. Belief in Jesus allows the believer sins to be overlooked or atoned for so that all that is left is the true condition of that persons Heart. So if a Hitler "Professed his faith" or belief in Jesus just before he died, God is not obligated to automatically let him in to heaven. True Belief in Jesus wipes away the believers sin, but if that person does not love or wants to be with God, then why would they even want to goto Heaven, even if they were allowed in?

And, again good works are only a matter of perspective. None of are capable of performing and sustaining good works in order to obtain true righteousness.
I have a problem with the laws put forth by the Lord. If I work on a Sabbath I should be stoned? If I am disobedient to my parents I shall be tied to a tree and stoned?

If you were an Old testament Jew, then yes.
But As Christian's we are not bound by the law to obtain righteousness.

Lastly(Not of my objections but of what I am willing to type), I don't understand the significance of Jesus, God created himself in human form, sacrificed himself in human form, then resurrected himself for what? To take away the bad sins and allow people access to heaven? If he really wanted to, and if he was omnipotent, he would just forgive the sins and be a more reasonable God.

First you must understand that we are all bad all of the time, so yes Jesus had to come and die so that the "bad" people could goto Heaven. Even if He were to simply forgive your sins would that make you love him? We all love God, because He first Loved us. So what greater love can a man have than to lay His life down for another?


I think you have misunderstood Who God is, Who we are and Why we are here.. This life is not about good works or simply believing in Jesus to get to the next one.

We are here to prove to ourselves in whom we love more. Ourselves and or our theologies, or God Himself. God could have created those that would choose Him in Heaven, and Created those who would not choose Him, in Hell. But because God is a righteous God we have been Given this life to prove to ourselves in whom we Love more. So that on the Day of our Judgment there will be no doubt in our minds.

To be with God in Heaven after this life is over, we will have to have shown in this life that we can Love the Lord our God with all of our Heart, Minds, Spirit, and Strength. With such love will come good works or at least the attempt of good works, and living by his law, but it is not these "activities" that save us, or make us righteous before the Lord.
It is the blood sacrifice of Jesus, that wipes away all of our sins, and the subsequence love that is left (After our sins are gone) that makes us righteous or acceptable before the Lord, and deserving of eternal life with Him.
 
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Lol....you're funny. See this is where you've got it all wrong. We're not here to "convert" you. That is not our job. Our job as Christians is to spread the WOrd of God, tell people about Christ's message. Whether they believe or not, is not up to us. The Holy Spirit is the one that convicts the hearts of men and woman and converts them into new creatures.

-Adaneth


My thread got deleted before, and I don't know why. I'm not debating, because if these problems got adequitly answered, I would convert. I would love to convert back, I was before a much happier individual.


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But I don't see how anyone could ever convince me. Maybe proof, or even a compelling philosophy would be enough.

So, I would like you guys to try to convert me to Christianity. Here's a few of my problems with it..

Why Christianity? Why not Buddhism? Why not Islam?

An omniscient being in a universe is incapable with freewill. If a being is omniscient then it already knows what I did before I did it and that would mean I had no choice in it at all.

I don't see your point with there being evil in the world because of Gods gift of freewill. When God made us he put in every fault into us, there is no random effect he can give us that will make us create faults on our own.

If I choose good actions i still am highly likely to get bad things to happen to me, what is the sense in that? Why wouldn't you reward the good people and make sure the sinners don't hurt the others.

Heaven and hell also doesn't make sense to me. I can live a perfect life giving to charity, helping every person I can, and never hear of "God's word" and I would end up in hell. But, I could kill millions and millions of people and as long as I believe in Jesus and God I automatically go to heaven.

I have a problem with the laws put forth by the Lord. If I work on a Sabbath I should be stoned? If I am disobedient to my parents I shall be tied to a tree and stoned?

Lastly(Not of my objections but of what I am willing to type), I don't understand the significance of Jesus, God created himself in human form, sacrificed himself in human form, then resurrected himself for what? To take away the bad sins and allow people access to heaven? If he really wanted to, and if he was omnipotent, he would just forgive the sins and be a more reasonable God.


Hopefully, I posted in the right spot, and hopefully I don't get banned for "trolling"
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Hi Oecleus, I did not read the thread, just your opening post and here is my reply. :)

“But I don't see how anyone could ever convince me. Maybe proof, or even a compelling philosophy would be enough.
So, I would like you guys to try to convert me to Christianity. Here's a few of my problems with it.”


I have “bolded” your questions, and then followed each of them with the response.

Why Christianity? Why not Buddhism? Why not Islam?
If I had been born into a Hindu culture, I probably would not be a christian. So I plead guilty to following the beliefs of my parents and my culture. After I was already a believer, I obtained a very limited knowledge of other religions by skimming through "comparative religion" material calculated to shatter one's faith. All other religions provide a works based system, where you earn your way to heaven. Christianity provides a faith based system where Jesus bought you your ticket, provided you believe in Jesus with all your heart as the Christ and Son of God. Jesus demonstrated He is the truth by rising from the dead.

An omniscient being in a universe is incapable with freewill. If a being is omniscient then it already knows what I did before I did it and that would mean I had no choice in it at all. It depends on how you define “omniscient.”If omniscient means knowing everything past, present and future, then the definition is not biblical. So your objection is with a fictional supposedly omniscient god. But if you define “omniscient” as God knowing everything He chooses to know, then you define “omniscient” biblically. Thus God can forgive sins and remember them no more forever. He can look into a person’s heart and know the person’s inner thoughts and motives, or He can choose not to look into the person’s heart, and test the person to demonstrate what the person actually believes in their heart, like He did with Abraham and Isaac. So if God has chosen not to know whether you will choose to trust in Christ, that provides you with freewill to accept or reject Christ.

I don't see your point with there being evil in the world because of Gods gift of freewill. When God made us he put in every fault into us, there is no random effect he can give us that will make us create faults on our own. First lets come to an understanding of “evil.” Evil is something that goes against your expectations and desires. Thus if a tornado strikes your house, you would say that was an “evil” wind.
But say two soldiers meet on a battlefield and one soldier shoots and kills the other.
The soldier being killed would consider the act evil, whereas the one who made the shot would consider the shot good because it protected himself and his comrades in arms. So what is evil in your eyes (i.e. the tornado that destroyed your house) would not be evil in the eyes of God, just part of the harsh environment that sustains us yet gives us reason to seek God as a refuge. So with this insight, natural calamity would be considered evil by mankind, but would not be evil from God’s perspective. Next we have the evil men choose to do. They covet and steal, and they know it is wrong because they do not want their stuff stolen. Here you argument is with whether God is omnipotent, whether He can create a purview where we make choices not dictated by our past. Whether we can do again what we have done, or walk away from the past and try something new. I believe we can. I believe “exhaustive determinism” is a fiction. And the bible says things happen by chance, i.e. not prearranged.


If I choose good actions i still am highly likely to get bad things to happen to me, what is the sense in that? Why wouldn't you reward the good people and make sure the sinners don't hurt the others. This is the generic question, why did God do this and not that. The very concept of God is He does as He pleases and He reveals His choices to us, but does not tell us why He made those choices. Here your argument is with God’s sovereignty, with you limiting God to what seems right in your eyes. Your view is there are “good people” but since everyone is a sinner God does not see it your way. He will provide justice for all, and mercy for the chosen ones who trust in Jesus. That is the plan, but do not expect justice in this life, only in the next.

Heaven and hell also doesn't make sense to me. I can live a perfect life giving to charity, helping every person I can, and never hear of "God's word" and I would end up in hell. But, I could kill millions and millions of people and as long as I believe in Jesus and God I automatically go to heaven. Yes those who die in unbelief go to “hell” where they receive perfect justice; they are punished for their misdeeds. And yes, killers can turn to Jesus and receive forgiveness, but it God who accepts or rejects their faith, so a hypocrite phony will not fool God. So going to heaven is not automatic if you profess to others you believe in Jesus, you must belief from the heart in the eyes of God.

I have a problem with the laws put forth by the Lord. If I work on a Sabbath I should be stoned? If I am disobedient to my parents I shall be tied to a tree and stoned? The law of Moses no longer applies, so for you to have a problem with it is odd. Why not have a problem with the “Law of Christ.” We are under grace, not the Law.
Please go through the book of Matthew, and paraphrase every command or direction given by Christ, there are about 75 of them. Then ask yourself; do I have a problem with one of these?

Lastly(Not of my objections but of what I am willing to type), I don't understand the significance of Jesus, God created himself in human form, sacrificed himself in human form, then resurrected himself for what? To take away the bad sins and allow people access to heaven? If he really wanted to, and if he was omnipotent, he would just forgive the sins and be a more reasonable God. This is a restatement of the generic question, why did God choose to do this and not that. God chose the redemption plan and brought it about at great cost. His purpose is to choose for Himself a people for His own possession, that we might proclaim His excellencies, who has called us out of darkness into His marvelous light. Jesus paid the price, the ransom, so that we might obtain forgiveness of sin, if we trust in Jesus and His sacrifice.
 
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The existence of God can not be proven by any test that would stand up to any scientific scrutiny- these arguments in defense of a Christian God are just philosophical arguments, and philosophical arguments can never be proven. They always have a counterpoint.

Anyone who says the existence of God can be proven does not understand the scientific process, or does not care to.

The beauty and elegance of the natural world speaks STRONGLY for God's existence. Perfect laws of physics don't simply explode out of nothing.

Just look at the galaxies, star clusters and nebulas in deep space. The Messier objects in particular are mind-blowing to behold. Look at the quantum shells (simply clouds of probability) of valence electrons in an atom -- look how that simple, elegant conceit leads to such a wonderful diversity of elements that can bond and make new structures -- from hydrogen to ununubium and everything in between -- meaning nuclear fusion in stars can coexist alongside water, nitrogen, iron, and complex hydrocarbon chains and all manner of metals and materials. Look at light and heat energy, look at matter (and strange matter and "dark matter") and how they all relate in perfect harmony. Look at the beauty of the visible spectrum of light.

How marvelous it is to look at the "tree of life" and see the incredible diversity of species as they grew and evolved across a few billion years, all over this Garden of Eden-like planet. Look at the brilliantly-varied and complex genetic information inside each one of those animals' DNA! How wondrous it is to consider how many other great planets there are out there in space, waiting to be discovered, possibly containing ecosystems of their own!! And that's not counting the myriad pleasures that exist on this planet alone, for every species' particular enjoyment.

The existence of God does not need to be "proven" by human science, although you're right, the question could never be definitively answered. But I think the goodness of God's handiwork is literally everywhere, if we simply open our eyes to look. I think God is found in the scientific process itself. And yes I know what is meant by that term. You're not the only one who's graduated 7th-grade biology class... :)
 
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The first point that jumps out is this- if you consider yourself to be a "good person"- how do you evaluate that and by whose standard?
Have you ever heard the expression " In the country of the blind, the one-eyed man is king?"

God's standard of good is found in the bible- and in our case, in this time, in the New Testament. You will see a high standard of "good" it is based on love of God and love of man that is so total- a person becomes a servant to them and will even die for them.

On that standard- who is "good"?

I have heard the "I'm a good person" statement from many different people. From one person who cheats on taxes and women, from another who was in jail for a violent crime. I am no better than them, my pride, anger, and self righteousness were pretty horrifying.

The goodness or "grace" of God is very foreign to normal human behavior. In that He is loving and forgiving of very wicked people- who are rebellious to Him. You judge God as one who has not read the New Testament...consider re-reading the Gospels with the questions you have posted.
 
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1) Why christianity? Jesus is the only spiritual remedy for mankind. Its the only way that mankind can be redeemed - the only spiritual medicine.

Says who? So the several billion people who disagree with you are going to hell? My wife is a Buddhist. Born in a Buddhist country, and raised a Buddhist. When our daughter was sick, she slept on a chair in her hospital room for 5 days. Are you better than her because you're a christian and she's not? I'd put her values against yours any day. And she'd win every time. If not for any other reason than she completely lacks your selfish arrogance.
 
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ive noticed many of these posters like the OP, never seem to return.
they make 1 post, then don't come back to re-post.

it's like that parable of the seeds.

those planted on the rocks, the thorns.. etc

You know why? Because you make one post that upsets the board, and next time, you can't log in. Your browser won't even be able to find the site. Whether by death or abandonment, christians are the past masters at silencing dissent. They've always used the classic tactics of the weak minded and cowardly. Tomorrow, I won't be able to log into this site.
 
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Says who? So the several billion people who disagree with you are going to hell? My wife is a Buddhist. Born in a Buddhist country, and raised a Buddhist. When our daughter was sick, she slept on a chair in her hospital room for 5 days. Are you better than her because you're a christian and she's not? I'd put her values against yours any day. And she'd win every time. If not for any other reason than she completely lacks your selfish arrogance.

You're using the wrong standard of comparison. The issue isn't whether or not your wife is better than Salida, but whether or not she is as good as a perfectly holy God, which she is not. Buddhists are going to hell, not because they aren't as nice, or wise, or loving as Christians but because none of them are perfect in their righteousness as God is.

It matters little that several billion people do or do not believe a thing. What matters is whether or not what they believe is true. The number of people who believe a thing is irrelevant. At one time most of the world thought the planet was flat but that didn't make that belief true.

Peace.
 
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I have a problem with the laws put forth by the Lord. If I work on a Sabbath I should be stoned? If I am disobedient to my parents I shall be tied to a tree and stoned?

I havent read the rest of these pages, so I dont know if this question has already been answered but

God says Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath, the idea is to have a good rest - take a day off - our bodies and minds need it. We all need it though so the idea is not to encourage others to break the sabbath either.

As for the stoning thing, the first problem here is that the "Law" in the bible is incorrectly translated into english - the Hebrew word (thats the language it was originally written in) is Torah - meaning to point straight, to hit the target. In the instance of Gods commandments, the Torah points to how best we should live our lives - as presecribed by God.

Secondly, the Torah contained within the bible is the written commandments, but there is the oral Torah to accompany it which details how the commandments were to be implimented. So for example the comandment "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth" often is misunderstood as meaning that you literally do to the other person what they have done to you, but this is wrong, it means that you should be given compensation to the value of what is injured.

You can find this oral torah in the Jewish writings known as the Talmud and Mishna - makes for interesting reading and has completely transformed the way I have read the commandments in the past:)
 
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Oecleus, I Miss You.
Now this morning I watched you wake up so quickly
But you were in such a hurry that you walked right past me
I stood there waiting anticipating your company
Hoping you would spend time with me but you’ve been busy lately
In fact I wonder if you’ve forgotten all about me
Cause back in the day there wasn’t a single thing you’d do without me
You couldn’t wait to tell me how your day went, but all I get is silence it’s the only statement
I was waiting for you last night but you came and went, you always leave me hanging
Just time and time again, I miss you more than your mind can comprehend
See I’m more than a savior I want to be the closest friend
But you show me when you act this way you don’t know me
And saying that you love me but leave me all alone again, so here I am
Left out in the cold again, just thought I’d let you know that I’m missing you again

I miss you. I miss you. Oh, I miss you!

See I ain’t saying that you don’t be loving me
But I am saying that you put everyone else in front of me
And when you’re in trouble that’s the only time you come to me
And when things crumble that’s the only time you run to me
A forgotten memory is just what I’ve come to be
After all I did you act like you don’t even remember me
You call on me when it’s convenient now I’ve come to see
There’s so much that I’d really just love to be
I’ll take care of it all if you put your trust in me
The big and the small see I want you to discuss with me
So the times when I call now you’ll just know it’s me
And even if ya fall now I’ll put you back upon your feet
But all in all I’m just waiting here patiently
Hoping that tomorrow when you wake up now from your sleep
That it’s priority for you to spend your time with me
Cause right now I miss you so much don’t you see?

Don’t you know how much I’m loving you?
But you can’t see right now how much I’m missing you.
 
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