My Problem with the Invisible Church

[Rick Otto]

Why do you misunderstand my posts when you claim to be laconic?

 

[laconicstudent]

Why do you misunderstand my posts when you claim to be laconic?

So why is a Christian mocking religion?

 

[Rick Otto]

So why is a laconic misunderstanding?

 

[laconicstudent]

So why is a laconic misunderstanding?

You really are having a hard time answering simple questions tonight.

 

[sunlover1]

You really are having a hard time answering simple questions tonight.

Tonight isn't special laconic lol.
And he always mocks "religion".
I'd do it to were I so witty and ..intrepid

 

[Rick Otto]

You really are having a hard time answering simple questions tonight.

You're not?

 

[Zeena]

Hmmmm......



"And this unity we ought firmly to hold and assert, especially those of us that are bishops who preside in the Church, that we may also prove the episcopate itself to be one and undivided. Let no one deceive the brotherhood by a falsehood: let no one corrupt the truth of the faith by perfidious prevarication. The episcopate is one, each part of which is held by each one for the whole. The Church also is one, which is spread abroad far and wide into a multitude by an increase of fruitfulness. As there are many rays of the sun, but one light; and many branches of a tree, but one strength based in its tenacious root; and since from one spring flow many streams, although the multiplicity seems diffused in the liberality of an overflowing abundance, yet the unity is still preserved in the source.

Is this not implying the 'source' as the church, rather than Christ, from Whom we each draw breath?

I do not breath the church, it's actually quite stiffling, I breath in (and out) Jesus.

The church is not my Life, Christ is.

Separate a ray of the sun from its body of light, its unity does not allow a division of light; break a branch from a tree,--when broken, it will not be able to bud; cut off the stream from its fountain, and that which is cut off dries up. Thus also the Church, shone over with the light of the Lord, sheds forth her rays over the whole world, yet it is one light which is everywhere diffused, nor is the unity of the body separated.

It is separate as long as it does not cling to the root, which is Christ. As is Scripturally sound;

Rom 11:18
Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.

Her fruitful abundance spreads her branches over the whole world. She broadly expands her rivers, liberally flowing, yet her head is one, her source one; and she is one mother, plentiful in the results of fruitfulness: from her womb we are born, by her milk we are nourished, by her spirit we are animated."

--St. Cyprian of Carthage, On the Unity of the Church, V

Heb 11:40
God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.

 

[AmericanCatholic]

Turn on the "Light".

How many heretics does it take to screw in that light bulb?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by TigerBunny Turn on the "Light".

How many heretics does it take to screw in that light bulb?

How many RCs/Jews does it take to light a Lampstand?

http://www.scripture4all.org/

Reve 2:5 Be thou remembering then! which place thou have *fallen and reform/repent! and the first works do!
If yet no, I-am-coming to thee *swiftly and shall be removing the Lampstand of thee out of the place of her if ever no thou should be reforming/repenting.

Reve 16:10 And the fifth *Messenger* pours out the bowl of him on the throne of the beast and became the Kingdom of it having been Darkened and they gnawed the tongues of them out of the misery.

http://www.nsbible.org/sits_ts/v0s1.htm

The Camp--The Court--The Tabernacle--The Brazen Altar--The Laver-- The Table--The Lampstand--The Golden Altar--The Mercy Seat and Ark--The Gate--The First Veil--The Second Veil--The Significance of These and Their Antitypes.

 

[AmericanCatholic]

How many RCs/Jews does it take to light a Lampstand?

Is this supposed to be a Jew joke?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Is this supposed to be a Jew joke?

Didn't Christianity arise out of Judaism

John 4:22 ye worship what ye have not known; we worship what we have known, because the salvation from out of the Judeans is

Textus Rec.) John 4:22 umeiV proskuneite o ouk oidate hmeiV proskunoumen o oidamen oti h swthria ek twn ioudaiwn estin

http://www.christianforums.com/t7455700-61/#post54437402
We cannot embrace Judaism and Christianity.

 

[Fireinfolding]

Didn't Christianity arise out of Judaism

John 4:22 ye worship what ye have not known; we worship what we have known, because the salvation from out of the Judeans is

Textus Rec.) John 4:22 umeiV proskuneite o ouk oidate hmeiV proskunoumen o oidamen oti h swthria ek twn ioudaiwn estin

http://www.christianforums.com/t7455700-61/#post54437402
We cannot embrace Judaism and Christianity.

Rev 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie;

Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

How many heretics does it take to screw in that light bulb?

I guess that depends on how many non-RCs there are

http://www.christianforums.com/t7448114-12/#post54283622

 

[MrPolo]

Chapter XXV

Of the Church

I. The catholic or universal Church, which is invisible, consists of the whole number of the elect, that have been, are, or shall be gathered into one, under Christ the Head thereof; and is the spouse, the body, the fulness of Him that fills all in all.

Westminster Confession of Faith​

I mean, if you can't even see each other, how do you ever get anything done?​

That is an interesting question. Is it also inaudible? Maybe if it's invisible but still audible, maybe they get things done by communicating only with sound. And what about the other 3 senses? Taste, touch, smell....

 

[Fireinfolding]

It does say, Ye are not come to a mountain that can be touched

The Lords people are not invisible, its He (in them) is the one who is invisible. Says, the reason the world cannot receive Him is because it SEETH HIM NOT. Though He says, YE SEE ME (but the world would not) and elsewhere, Therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. I love the phrase "seeing Him who is invisible".... While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen

 

[Fireinfolding]

2Cr 2:15 For we are unto God a sweet savour of Christ, in them that are saved, and in them that perish:

Sweet savour is a smell isnt it?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

That is an interesting question. Is it also inaudible? Maybe if it's invisible but still audible, maybe they get things done by communicating only with sound. And what about the other 3 senses? Taste, touch, smell....

http://www.olivetree.com/cgi-bin/EnglishBible.htm

YoungLT) Collosian 2:20 If, then, ye did die with the Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances?
21 --thou mayest not touch, nor taste, nor handle--
22 which are all for destruction with the using, after the commands and teachings of men,

 

[Fireinfolding]

YoungLT) Collosian 2:20 If, then, ye did die with the Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances?
21 --thou mayest not touch, nor taste, nor handle--
22 which are all for destruction with the using, after the commands and teachings of men,

Thats not the context he's speaking of

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Thats not the context he's speaking of

Oh......my bad then

 

[Fireinfolding]

Oh......my bad then

Besides not all touch not's are of men

2Cr 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,

Isaiah 52:11 Depart ye, depart ye, go ye out from thence, touch no unclean thing; go ye out of the midst of her; be ye clean, that bear the vessels of the LORD.


Hag 2:13 Then said Haggai, If one that is unclean by a dead body touch any of these, shall it be unclean? And the priests answered and said, It shall be unclean.

Hag 2:14 Then answered Haggai, and said, So is this people, and so is this nation before me, saith the LORD; and so is every work of their hands; and that which they offer there is unclean.