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My mom is always bugging me that i dont play board games enough

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lol. Back in the day we didn't have video games. So you could argue that your mom doesn't play enough video games!
A lot of board games have been made to play on machines now, which makes it a LOT easier. You don't have to count stuff and keep track of a ton of things. You don't have to set it up or put all the stuff back up. Plus, when you're alone you can play against your good buddy, Mr. AI.

But, I do recommend playing board games with family if they want to. They have a way of bringing people together.
 
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Axis and Allies is a great board game that I play with the old foegies all the time! (My friends in their 30s/40s :D ) It's just risk with a few flaws removed (card trade-in wars and the consequential meaning of endless games) and some complication added. So I still play board games on and off. Monopoly is awesome!
 
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There'll be days where you can't pull me away from my ps2. But not when there's other people around. Board games stimulate a different part of the brain than video games. Monopoly and those kind of games I personally don't care for. I love Trivial Pursuit, Boggle, Clue, Apples to Apples, Chess...the games where you have to use your brain. Increasing intellect is sweet. But then again I'm a bit of a geek.
 
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I'm an only child.. I'd suggest sports for those with my issue. Board games just aren't that interesting with 2 people, and usually only one.

Play catch. Go ahead. Do it. You'll talk and get some physical activity. *snicker* Worked for me..
 
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I don't play boardgames, mostly because no one in my family plays them. I sometimes wish we could have family time together playing games.

By myself, I usually play computer games, although sometimes I play the traditional board games on my computer. I'm learning chess from my best friend, and it's great because she can teach me over the internet! Other than that, I sometimes play checkers against humans or a game called Mill or Nine Men's Morris against my computer (but the AI is kinda dumb and the strategy is limited so I've given up on that one lately).
 
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Stryper said:
shes like "yea i played board games all the time when i was a kid" and my arguement is that her generations games were on boards are my generations are video games. so does anybody prefer board games over video games?


oh btw this forum is for board games too.
Actually board games are technically limited and that is why the creation of new innovative board games completely stagnated in the 80’s. Now who wants to play a war game on a 20X20 foot map with 50 pages of rules and thousands of game pieces when you can fire up Civilization III: play the world on your computer? If you tried to play Civ3 on a 20X20 with thousands of game pieces you would have a rulebook well over 300 pages I would guess.

Board games are not as complex as the traditional war games but this even shows a greater scale of the limitation to board games in general. Board games are still fun just like card games are but board games have reached the limits of their development.
 
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Durelen said:
Actually board games are technically limited and that is why the creation of new innovative board games completely stagnated in the 80’s. Now who wants to play a war game on a 20X20 foot map with 50 pages of rules and thousands of game pieces when you can fire up Civilization III: play the world on your computer? If you tried to play Civ3 on a 20X20 with thousands of game pieces you would have a rulebook well over 300 pages I would guess.

Board games are not as complex as the traditional war games but this even shows a greater scale of the limitation to board games in general. Board games are still fun just like card games are but board games have reached the limits of their development.
Computer games have NEVER equalled pen and paper RPGS and NEVER WILL. No computer is as adaptive as a human being. I protest any concept that board games are technically limited. If and when war games integrate computers they will far surpass computer games because of the built in logical limitations of computers.
 
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Computer games have NEVER equalled pen and paper RPGS and NEVER WILL. No computer is as adaptive as a human being. I protest any concept that board games are technically limited. If and when war games integrate computers they will far surpass computer games because of the built in logical limitations of computers.
Ummm… gee so emotional. Anyway I didn’t mention P&P games that I played for years, long ago. There are two clear advantages that computers have over P&P but still other things are lost in the transition to computerized gaming just as with board games. Yet then again computer gaming has advantages in the same perspective but on a broader scale in regards to social gaming if done on a network.

As for those two clear advantages, I’ll quote from “The Art of Computer Game Design” by Chris Crawford.
D&D first appeared in the mid 70’s; it didn’t take long for people to realize that it had two serious limitations. First, the game needed a group of players and a dungeon master, so it was impossible to play the game solitaire. Second, the game sometimes could become tedious when it required lengthy computations and throwing of the dice. Many people recognized that these problems could be resolved with a microcomputer.
As for “never”… err... "NEVER"... well that sure is a long time. CRPG has made serious leaps and bounds just in the past few years and there really is no limitation in site as far as what can be done with computers. As technology becomes more and more advanced, so too will be the implementation of CRPC in that medium.

As for bored games, well yes they are limited. If they were not limited then there would be great leaps and bounds in the development and creation of board games over the past 30 years. They are limited because a person can only keep track of so much information before the game becomes mundane. Not everyone wants to read a pile of books to learn the rules of a game. Computer gaming is far more complex than most people realize, but that’s a good thing since anyone can jump right in and start playing without needing to worry about a bunch of silly rules.

As for the “logical limitation of computers”, ever get beat at chess by a computer? No need to answer. True they don’t think as we do but algorithms sure are tuff to beat when the jello hits the fan.
 
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Durelen said:
Ummm… gee so emotional. Anyway I didn’t mention P&P games that I played for years, long ago. There are two clear advantages that computers have over P&P but still other things are lost in the transition to computerized gaming just as with board games. Yet then again computer gaming has advantages in the same perspective but on a broader scale in regards to social gaming if done on a network.

As for those two clear advantages, I’ll quote from “The Art of Computer Game Design” by Chris Crawford.

As for “never”… err... "NEVER"... well that sure is a long time. CRPG has made serious leaps and bounds just in the past few years and there really is no limitation in site as far as what can be done with computers. As technology becomes more and more advanced, so too will be the implementation of CRPC in that medium.

As for bored games, well yes they are limited. If they were not limited then there would be great leaps and bounds in the development and creation of board games over the past 30 years. They are limited because a person can only keep track of so much information before the game becomes mundane. Not everyone wants to read a pile of books to learn the rules of a game. Computer gaming is far more complex than most people realize, but that’s a good thing since anyone can jump right in and start playing without needing to worry about a bunch of silly rules.

As for the “logical limitation of computers”, ever get beat at chess by a computer? No need to answer. True they don’t think as we do but algorithms sure are tuff to beat when the jello hits the fan.
You limit the game to something simplistic like chess, and it's easy. Honestly no D&D campaign is half as limited as chess is. For instance the computer might be able to calculate 15 moves ahead in chess, however what will it do when a party hires a village to chop down a large section of a forest and use the lumber to smoke the dragon out of its cave? It can't respond to something tangental to what it thinks is supposed to happen.

And as for playing with other people - that's down in the disadvantage category why exactly? I only play games with other people, even computer games.

P.S. Anyone who's ever seen White Wolf's stuff knows that P&P is evolving, like everything else. D&D just released 3.5.
 
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