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My Light Bulb Challenge

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Just bumping this question in case you missed it.

Sophophile said:
So, do you agree that the created light-bulb shows physical evidence of the filament heating up and evaporating?
I will agree that the light bulb could be interpreted as such; but that interpretation, of course, would be overrode by the circumstances, viz. how it came into existence, i.e. ex nihilo.

Thanks AV1611VET, I'm glad we got that cleared up.

So, back my question which is still standing:

Q. Why did you create the light-bulb comprising physical evidence that it was once used, when in fact it has never been used and was created in an already burned-out state?

Regards
S.

Note: You originally denied the premise of this question viz. the lightbulb comprises evidence it was once used. I've asked the question again on the basis that you now accept the premise of the question that the lightbulb comprises evidence it was once used.
 
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Groan. That place you have no time for. Your basic doctrine, AV, is a laughing stock everywhere except for a few hick churches in the bible belt. The bottom line is that being a bible literalist and believing in adam and eve and the rest of the fairy tales requires a deliberate act of will. It demands you remain ignorant of anything that might challenge your beliefs (witness your attitude to whole libraries of books), it demands ignoring the real world if it contradicts the bible (witness your boolean standards - if ever there was a self signed statement of stupidity it is your boolean standards) and it demands maintaining an arrogant belief that your transparently absurd, idiotic, ignorant, moronic beliefs are in some way evidence of your superior mental gifts.
It needs to be posted again...........and again......
 
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I create a burned-out light bulb ex nihilo right in front of you, and even videotape it for you.

The bulb has the following characteristics:

  1. it has a burned-out tungsten filament
  2. it has MADE IN GUAM (where we're at) on the sleeve
  3. it has a time-stamp on the sleeve
I then sit down and take any questions concerning what I have done.

The only thing you know about me is that I cannot lie.

Challenge: Show why this is deceptive (not paradoxical); and feel free to ask me anything you want.

You may consider the light bulb omphalos, last thursday, gap, old age, young age, embedded age, day-age, or even new age; just not deceptive.

The purpose of this challenge is to defend an act of creatio ex nihilo as paradoxical, not deceptive.

Let me hazard to make a guess on this one. If this challenge follows the same rules as the 50 cent challenge that would mean that at the very moment you create a light bulb ex nihilo there is some burn out light bulb some place on the planet that is being destroyed. Hence the number of light bulbs on earth remains the same.
 
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How many YECs does it take to change a light bulb?
None. God creates ex nihilo new lightbulbs for them... but sadly he only creates burned out ones, so they are left where they started.

The number of burned out lightbulbs on earth stays the same.
 
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None. God creates ex nihilo new lightbulbs for them... but sadly he only creates burned out ones, so they are left where they started.

The number of burned out lightbulbs on earth stays the same.

Wow, you bet me to the punch! Though, I like your post better. Oh well I am sure I will have plenty of opportunities to posts some witty responses to these ridiculous threads.
 
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Oh well I am sure I will have plenty of opportunities to posts some witty responses to these ridiculous threads.
Yup -- there's always some new way to exhibit your confusion.
 
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Doesn't make any sense, does it?
No, it doesn't -- it doesn't have to -- it's called a 'miracle'.

Does the Trinity make sense to you?

Does feeding five thousand people with a two-piece fish dinner make sense to you?
Neither does a literal interpretation of Genesis.
And yet I take flack from you guys for agreeing.
 
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No, it doesn't -- it doesn't have to -- it's called a 'miracle'.

So you admit that God can do things that are not logical? God is not bound by logic?

I have a thread about God and a rock too heavy for him to lift you should post that point of view in.

Does the Trinity make sense to you?

Nope.

Does feeding five thousand people with a two-piece fish dinner make sense to you?

Sure, if everyone goes hungry.

And yet I take flack from you guys for agreeing.

Not quite. You cop flack because you admit that it doesn't make sense, yet insist it is real anyway.
 
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