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I think you may not know the woeful American maternal death rates. It’s not safe for many women to give birth in that country.Not normally.
And what about the mortality rates for women having abortions?I think you may not know the woeful American maternal death rates. It’s not safe for many women to give birth in that country.
In some of the American states the risk of death to mum does not allow an abortion.it would be a another moral calculation with new factors.
They are forced to under go a process (carrying pregnancy to term) that could kill her.And what about the mortality rates for women having abortions?
In some of the American states the risk of death to mum does not allow an abortion.
In any event: force a woman to deliver a pregnancy to term ask her to roll the dice. And snake eyes means she dies.
No one should be forced to roll that dice.
But that is their choice. The willingly roll that dice.A fertile man and a fertile woman who willingly engage in sex, even with protection, are also rolling the dice.
In some of the American states the risk of death to mum does not allow an abortion.
But that is their choice. The willingly roll that dice.
But from that point on the state FORCES the woman to roll that dice.
Willing rolling the dice is not the same as being FORCED to by the state.
Well, why did you not put that factoid into the OP? You'd have saved us a lot of time. In other words, you have no rational argument to post as instructive to others on the morality of abortion; you just feel that, "I am OK with killing that thing in my womb and please don't bother me with facts or logic".I believe that morality is subjective, not objective ...
You might want to reread my post.They are forced to under go a process (carrying pregnancy to term) that could kill her.
Why would it be wrong for you to deny your child?
So then you are okay with my morality that says elective abortions should be punished like any other murders.Because I love my child and I want what is best for them, and I don't want them to suffer if I can avoid it.
But, let me emphasize once again, I hold that this moral viewpoint is SUBJECTIVE, and not objective.
The scenarios are not parallel.
In the kidney scenario the person who is donating did not bring about the need for a kidney in the person.
In pregnancy the people engaging in sex did bring about the need for the baby to live in the uterus.
Of course birth control can fail. The failure rate is often published, based on proper use (and can be higher with improper use). That is why engaging in sex between a fertile man and a fertile woman carries with it the potential for life.
Do you think a man having sex with a woman should have to pay child support if the birth control methods used fail? What if he didn't want the child?
He is required to pay child support because he engaged in an act that can lead to life, even when that is not the desired outcome, and even if prevention methods are used.
That's not relatable to abortion. Taking a life deliberately isn't the same as refusing to save a life.
If you murder someone you are a murderer. If you don't save someone's life you are just being irresponsible.
So then you are okay with my morality that says elective abortions should be punished like any other murders.
My morality says it should be forced. You can’t say it’s wrong because it’s subjective.As long as you understand that such a moral viewpoint is SUBJECTIVE and not objective, and thus should not be forced onto other people who may not necessarily hold that same viewpoint.
But sure. If you believe that elective abortions are wrong and need to be punished in the same way as a murder, then by all means subject yourself to such a punishment if you ever have an abortion.
That’s not very many. How many babies die during abortions?
My morality says it should be forced. You can’t say it’s wrong because it’s subjective.
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