My India Challenge

[AV1611VET]

The situation is made even more ridiculous because you have used the Bible to claim India has never moved because God boiled the ocean in which case the appropriate “heuristic” is criteria 2. Bible says x, Science says y = go with x.

I challenged you to show me where your claim is explicitly stated in the Bible and the evidence behind it.
Given you avoided to provide the answer means this “heuristic” bombs out as well.
I rest my case.

And I now challenge you to show me where I said God boiled the oceans.

 

[AV1611VET]

We know what you are trying to say ...

Uh-huh.

And I'm Genghis Khan.

 

[sjastro]

And I now challenge you to show me where I said God boiled the oceans.

Post #93

Fair enough.
India didn't float off because God boiled the ocean away.

 

[AV1611VET]

Post #93

India did not float off, and God did not boil the ocean away.

That's what I meant.

 

[AV1611VET]

Question:

While India was being escorted to Laurasia from Gondwana, was it a continent at the time (since continents are surrounded by water)?

If so, is this an example of one continent colliding with another?

 

[Occams Barber]

Question:

While India was being escorted to Laurasia from Gondwana, was it a continent at the time (since continents are surrounded by water)?

If so, is this an example of one continent colliding with another?

Not all continents are surrounded by water. Europe and Asia are connected by land. North and South America are also land connected via the Isthmus of Panama.

The term continent has various meanings depending on geographical or geological (or cultural) conventions. There is no strict definition. Looking at the globe today you could say there are between 4 and 7 continents depending on the convention being applied.

India is generally referred to as a sub-continent. Back in the days of Gondwana and Laurasia, after India separated from Pangea, you could probably describe it as a big island or, perhaps, a sub-continent. Either description would fit.

I wasn't aware that India was 'escorted' to its date with Laurasia.

Who was the lucky landmass?


PS
Since you appear to have missed 4th grade geography this might help fill in some of the embarrassing gaps.

Continent - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

OB

 

[AV1611VET]

I wasn't aware that India was 'escorted' to its date with Laurasia.

Who was the lucky landmass?

Some plate.

Or plates.

Wasn't plate tectonics supposedly involved?

 

[AV1611VET]

PS
Since you appear to have missed 4th grade geography this might help fill in some of the embarrassing gaps.

Continent - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Well, that just cleared everything up.

From the link:

A continent is any of several large geographical regions. Continents are generally identified by convention rather than any strict criteria. A continent could be a single landmass or a part of a very large landmass, as in the case of Asia or Europe. Due to this, the number of continents varies; up to seven or as few as four geographical regions are commonly regarded as continents.

Clear as mud.

In other words, it's a continent, unless it isn't.

Maybe I should go back and try that 4th grade again?

On the other hand ...

 

[Occams Barber]

Well, that just cleared everything up.

From the link:



Clear as mud.

In other words, it's a continent, unless it isn't.

Maybe I should go back and try that 4th grade again?

On the other hand ...

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One of the many differences between Christian you and atheist me is our relative ability to cope with uncertainty.

I am comfortable with the idea that there is often no strict black and white demarcation between concepts like species, or continents, or Pluto and planets, or between life and not-life, or an ever-changing science.

Christians seem to need the reassurance of certainty - hence the absolute belief in God and the invariability of Christian doctrine.

OB

 

[AV1611VET]

One of the many differences between Christian you and atheist me is our relative ability to cope with uncertainty.

I am comfortable with the idea that there is often no strict black and white demarcation between concepts like species, or continents, or Pluto and planets, or between life and not-life, or an ever-changing science.

Christians seem to need the reassurance of certainty - hence the absolute belief in God and the invariability of Christian doctrine.

OB

James 1:8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

 

[Occams Barber]

Some plate.

Or plates.

Wasn't plate tectonics supposedly involved?

You mean the India Plate. India is actually just the visible part of the India Plate. The plate is around 70 to 90 km thick and covers more territory than the India we can see. It's 'floating' on the more plastic hot rock below the Earth's mantle.

Its north-east movement is measured using satellite technology (like your car's GPS/satnav system). Tectonic plate movement is responsible for many of the earthquakes and volcanic eruptions around the world. It's the way mountains get made.

OB

 

[AV1611VET]

You mean the India Plate. India is actually just the visible part of the India Plate. The plate is around 70 to 90 km thick and covers more territory than the India we can see. It's 'floating' on the more plastic hot rock below the Earth's mantle.

Its north-east movement is measured using satellite technology (like your car's GPS/satnav system). Tectonic plate movement is responsible for many of the earthquakes and volcanic eruptions around the world. It's the way mountains get made.

OB

Thanks for the info.

Do you know what I meant now when I said India was escorted to its destination?

 

[Occams Barber]

Thanks for the info.

Do you know what I meant now when I said India was escorted to its destination?

Not really.

India wasn't escorted by the India Plate.

It's part of the India Plate.

OB

 

[AV1611VET]

Not really.

India wasn't escorted by the India Plate.

It's part of the India Plate.

OB

Okay.

 

[Kylie]

If India "torpedoed" into the Asian continent at the rate of 2cm/year, forming the Himalayan Mountains, where out in the ocean was India's starting point, and how did scientists ascertain it?

Please note: I want an exact starting point in the ocean where India began its journey, as I'm using this challenge to point out that science chisels and force-fits their data to get the results they're looking for.

It may take several tries, a computer, and several moments of "back to the drawing board" to force their conclusions to agree with other scientific disciplines (such as astronomy), but with the aid of computers it can be done.

So please tell me:

Where exactly was India's starting point, according to current models?

Please provide a fixed point on the Earth's crust to use as a fixed reference point and I will describe the motion relative to that point.

 

[AV1611VET]

Please provide a fixed point on the Earth's crust to use as a fixed reference point and I will describe the motion relative to that point.

Thanks anyway, but that's already been done by someone else.

 

[Nithavela]

If India "torpedoed" into the Asian continent at the rate of 2cm/year, forming the Himalayan Mountains, where out in the ocean was India's starting point, and how did scientists ascertain it?

Please note: I want an exact starting point in the ocean where India began its journey, as I'm using this challenge to point out that science chisels and force-fits their data to get the results they're looking for.

It may take several tries, a computer, and several moments of "back to the drawing board" to force their conclusions to agree with other scientific disciplines (such as astronomy), but with the aid of computers it can be done.

So please tell me:

Where exactly was India's starting point, according to current models?

At the point where the big bang had its origin.

 

[AV1611VET]

At the point where the big bang had its origin.

Ylem?

 

[Kylie]

Thanks anyway, but that's already been done by someone else.

Can you show me this?

 

[AV1611VET]

Can you show me this?

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