My India Challenge

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

You'd like that, wouldn't you?

No, because there's nothing else to say. No matter what anyone would tell you, you would not accept it at all because your mind is already made up on the matter.
So, challenge done, thread closed, that's it.

 

[AV1611VET]

So, challenge done, thread closed, that's it.

Except maybe ... you know ... answering the two questions put forth?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Except maybe ... you know ... answering the two questions put forth?

I only saw the one question in the OP, which is you asking for a point on the map. So, using this... okay-ish website, and this list of places that has the distances from India to certain places, which has Austria as the closet place that is 6,400km away from India (6,430, but that's a give or take) and the projecting using a simple rule, I calculated that India was roughly where Zambian and Angolan is today. Not that you actually give a crap but still.

No idea what your second question is, have not seen one apart from your "You'd like that, wouldn't you?" question.

 

[AV1611VET]

No idea what your second question is, have not seen one apart from your "You'd like that, wouldn't you?" question.

QV please:

If India "torpedoed" into the Asian continent at the rate of 2cm/year, forming the Himalayan Mountains, where out in the ocean was India's starting point, and how did scientists ascertain it?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

QV please:

Did you not use a ruler and pencil back when you were in school? Maybe a protracter and compass?

 

[AV1611VET]

Did you not use a ruler and pencil back when you were in school? Maybe a protracter and compass?

Not to find India out in the middle of the ocean somewhere.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Not to find India out in the middle of the ocean somewhere.

Then that's wholly on you.

 

[Lost4words]

You do know that I [seriously] believe Noah lived in what is now New Jersey before the Flood, don't you?

It's for this very reason (and a couple other reasons) I believe that.

I am sure i got a pic somewhere of Noah with my ancestors....

 

[Occams Barber]

If India "torpedoed" into the Asian continent at the rate of 2cm/year, forming the Himalayan Mountains, where out in the ocean was India's starting point, and how did scientists ascertain it?

Starting Point
On the southern part of the super continent of Pangea at 25 degrees Latitude (see map below). Since this was around 250 Mya Earth's geography was considerably different e.g. current oceans and continents do not yet exist. India will form as tectonic movement gradually pulls Pangea apart.

Tracking
India's location over time, relative to the rest of Pangea, is based on a variety of factors:

• Continental fit (a bit like a jigsaw puzzle)
• Current known continental drift
• Continuity of landforms (mountains, glaciers, valleys etc.) indicating areas which were once conjoined.
• Orientation of ferrous particles indicating a shift in North/South orientation over time
• Continuity of plant and animal fossil record
• Continuity of similar geology and geological age
• Relative locations of ancient climate zones

OB

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

On the southern part of the super continent of Pangea at 25 degrees Latitude (see map below). Since this was around 250 Mya Earth's geography was considerably different e.g. current oceans and continents do not yet exist. India will form as tectonic movement gradually pulls Pangea apart.

I was WAAAAY off then. That puts the original starting point in the Mozambique Channel.

 

[Occams Barber]

I was WAAAAY off then. That puts the original starting point in the Mozambique Channel.

Yes - according to the map.

I'm not sure how much debate there is on approximate latitudes and longitudes for Pangea. There is also subsequent movement which probably churns things up a bit.

OB

 

[AV1611VET]

I was WAAAAY off then.

How do you know?

How do you know OB is right, and you're the one in the wrong?

Perhaps OB is the one who is "waaaay off"?

That puts the original starting point in the Mozambique Channel.

Can you confirm that off charta?

 

[dlamberth]

I have no problem with these plate tectonics moving around all over the place today.

I believe God gave us the ability to discover and observe them.

What I do have a problem with though, are scientists using them to pwn God's literal Creation Week.

Geologist are only sharing what the Earth itSelf is showing them. If that's different than a supposed Creation Week, because the Earth is unable to lie, perhaps it's the Creation Story of a very ancient nomadic tribe of desert dwellers that needs to be questioned, not the geologist.

 

[Occams Barber]

How do you know?

How do you know OB is right, and you're the one in the wrong?

Perhaps OB is the one who is "waaaay off"?



Can you confirm that off charta?

Taking the latitude and longitude centred on India, in the Pangea map, and translating it to a modern map, places Pangean India roughly in the Mozambique Channel*.

More correctly, it would place India where the Mozambique Channel would be if it existed at the time of Pangea (which it didn't).

* The Mozambique Channel is the stretch of water between Madagascar and the African mainland at Mozambique
OB

 

[AV1611VET]

Geologist are only sharing what the Earth itSelf is showing them. If that's different than a supposed Creation Week, because the Earth is unable to lie, perhaps it's the Creation Story of a very ancient nomadic tribe of desert dwellers that needs to be questioned, not the geologist.

So the earth is to be blamed for showing us India broke away from:

1. Madascar
2. Australia
3. Africa

Let's not question "an ancient nomadic tribe of desert dwellers."

This thread's for you and your academic cohorts.

 

[AV1611VET]

Taking the latitude and longitude centred on India, in the Pangea map, and translating it to a modern map, places Pangean India roughly in the Mozambique Channel. More correctly, it would place India where the Mozambique Channel would be if it existed at the time of Pangea (which it didn't).

OB

What criteria do you use to "translate it to a modern map" specifically?

Is it simple math? (2cm/year x whatever number of years you come up with?)

Do I need to rehash the depth of the moondust argument?

 

[Occams Barber]

What criteria do you use to "translate it to a modern map" specifically?

Is it simple math? (2cm/year x whatever number of years you come up with?)

Do I need to rehash the depth of the moondust argument?

1. Find India on the Pangea map
2. Note the latitude and longitude centred on India (approximately Lat 25, Long 50)
3. Go to a modern map/globe
4. Find the same latitude and longitude on the modern map

If you did it right your finger will be in the Mozambique Channel.
No maths required.

OB

 

[AV1611VET]

1. Find India on the Pangea map
2. Note the latitude and longitude centred on India (approximately Lat 25, Long 50)
3. Go to a modern map/globe
4. Find the same latitude and longitude on the modern map

Got it.

Thanks.

 

[Occams Barber]

Got it.

Thanks.

If you're trying to look at speed of travel I'm afraid you'll need a lot more info.

1. Did India's movement start on Day 1 of 250 Mya?
2. Did India stop and start its journey one or more times?
3, When it was moving was it at a constant speed or did it vary?
4. Was the voyage in a straight line or a bit of a wander?
5. How much did it slow down when it hit the Asian mainland and started pushing up the Himalayas?
6. Was the Asian mainland in the same place as it is today?
7. Did you allow time for a twirl or two?
8. Have you worked out where the end point of the journey is? (see points 5 and 6)

Good luck

OB

 

[AV1611VET]

If you're trying to look at speed of travel I'm afraid you'll need a lot more info.

1. Did India's movement start on Day 1 of 250 Mya?
2. Did India stop and start its journey one or more times?
3, When it was moving was it at a constant speed or did it vary?
4. Was the voyage in a straight line or a bit of a wander?
5. How much did it slow down when it hit the Asian mainland and started pushing up the Himalayas?
6. Was the Asian mainland in the same place as it is today?
7. Did you allow time for a twirl or two?
8. Have you worked out where the end point of the journey is? (see points 5 and 6)

Good luck

OB

Okay, thank you.