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Kylie · Nov 22, 2016

AV1611VET said:
Thank you.

And speaking of sad one trick ponies, do you know your SHOW ME EVIDENCE mantra anagrams to SHOWMEN DECEIVE?

And "Biblical literalist" anagrams to Illicit Satirical Blab, with just a B left over. What's your point?

GrowingSmaller · Nov 23, 2016

If evolution is true then why is Godel's incompleteness theorem even vaguely mentionable ( I am thinking that evolution depends on mathematical axioms somewhere or other)?

FrumiousBandersnatch · Nov 24, 2016

GrowingSmaller said:
If evolution is true then why is Godel's incompleteness theorem even vaguely mentionable ( I am thinking that evolution depends on mathematical axioms somewhere or other)?

Did somebody mention it ?

quatona · Nov 24, 2016

AV1611VET said:
If I build a log cabin tomorrow out of 2000 year old trees, will experts say my house was built in the year 16?

So when you say the universe was created 4000 years (but is millions of years old - or whatever your weird terminology is) ago, you mean it was created ex materia?

badams429 · Nov 27, 2016

There are a lot of ignorant stances people take regarding this subject to say the least.
First of all it doesn't state anywhere in the Bible when the Earth was created nor how old it is. Anybody that says different is making up garbage.
Second, the stance that creation couldn't have occurred because of the changing world we live in is also garbage.
Creationism and Evolution are both correct. It's about time both sides come to this realization.
Creation actually goes hand in hand with evolution. Look at it this way.
Evolution is the conscious (Spirit filled) act of Creation.
Constant Creation!!

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AV1611VET · Nov 27, 2016

badams429 said:
There are a lot of ignorant stances people take regarding this subject to say the least.

Let's hear one.

badams429 said:
First of all it doesn't state anywhere in the Bible when the Earth was created ...

Either that, or It does.

"In the beginning ..."

badams429 said:
... nor how old it is.

You are correct.

It doesn't.

God evidently left that one up to scientists to figure out.

But It does say how long the earth has been in existence.

And that's something scientists cannot figure out, even with a calculator.

It takes a childlike spirit to do that.

badams429 said:
Anybody that says different is making up garbage.

I disagree.

YECs, for example, say differently ... and I believe they are sincere about it.

It is not 'made up garbage,' but rather a denial of what the scientists say about the age of the earth.

badams429 said:
Creationism and Evolution are both correct.

No, they aren't.

They are at odds with each other.

badams429 said:
Constant Creation!!

So when God suddenly destroys everything with a "great noise," it will be like ... one day He is creating, and the next He suddenly destroys it?

Like a person typing a story, then suddenly rips the paper out of the typewriter and throws it away?

joshua 1 9 · Nov 27, 2016

AV1611VET said:
Finish this sentence, please:

If evolution is true, then why _______________ ?

You may also choose:

If creationism is true, then why _____________ ?

Creationism and evolution both have the same evidence.

archer75 · Nov 27, 2016

@AV1611VET, what are the four dimensions you spoke of in Paul?

AV1611VET · Nov 27, 2016

hengesthorsa said:
@AV1611VET, what are the four dimensions you spoke of in Paul?

Ephesians 3:18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;

Kylie · Nov 29, 2016

AV1611VET said:
Ephesians 3:18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;

Could you label these axes on a diagram please?

[serious] · Nov 29, 2016

AV1611VET said:
Finish this sentence, please:

If evolution is true, then why _______________ ?

You may also choose:

If creationism is true, then why _____________ ?

If evolution is true, then what's up with the hydrax? Seriously, it's just weird.

If creationism is true, then why does all life on earth sort into a nested hierarchy based on morphology, and why do genetic hierarchies looking at non coding DNA unrelated to those morphologies yield the exact same nested hierarchy?

AV1611VET · Nov 29, 2016

KTS said:
Could you label these axes on a diagram please?

Subduction Zone · Nov 29, 2016

joshua 1 9 said:
Creationism and evolution both have the same evidence.

And that evidence only supports the theory of evolution.

"Having evidence" does not necessarily mean that evidence supports one's claims.

I have found that creationists as a rule do not understand the nature of evidence. They seem to be terrified of scientific evidence in particular.

Kylie · Nov 29, 2016

AV1611VET said:

1. I see no labels.
2. That is not a four dimensional object, it is a three dimensional representation of a four dimensional object.
3. Do you have any evidence to support the idea that a Christian can comprehend four dimensional space by accepting Jesus? Why weren't Christians proclaiming four spatial dimensions back in the 15th century?

AV1611VET · Nov 29, 2016

KTS said:
1. I see no labels.

Then give it one.

You might get a Nobel prize.

KTS said:
2. That is not a four dimensional object, it is a three dimensional representation of a four dimensional object.

So?

You asked for a diagram.

And that's even worse, since it's a two-dimensional representation of a four dimensional object.

KTS said:
3. Do you have any evidence to support the idea that a Christian can comprehend four dimensional space by accepting Jesus?

What kind of question is that?

ANYONE can either accept it (and be right), or reject it (and be wrong).

Like what you and I are doing.

KTS said:
Why weren't Christians proclaiming four spatial dimensions back in the 15th century?

Because they hadn't proclaimed one, two, and three dimensions yet?

Kylie · Nov 29, 2016

AV1611VET said:
Then give it one.

Do I look like your mum? Do your own homework. You're the one saying there are four dimensions here. Label them.

So?

You asked for a diagram.

I asked for a LABELLED diagram.

And that's even worse, since it's a two-dimensional representation of a four dimensional object.

A two dimensional image of a three dimensional projection of a four dimensional object.

What kind of question is that?

ANYONE can either accept it (and be right), or reject it (and be wrong).

Like what you and I are doing.

It's a question that follows from the context of the passage you quoted.

Because they hadn't proclaimed one, two, and three dimensions yet?

According to the passage you quoted, they had proclaimed three dimensions (and an extra one!) long before the 15th century! Try again!

AV1611VET · Nov 29, 2016

KTS said:
Label them.

Post 110 please.

I realize they're Biblical labels, meaning educated people won't understand them; but try.

Chesterton · Nov 29, 2016

If evolution is true, then why doesn't work feel like sex?

If evolution is true, then why doesn't broccoli taste like bacon?

Kylie · Nov 29, 2016

AV1611VET said:
Post 110 please.

I realize they're Biblical labels, meaning educated people won't understand them; but try.

Post 110 is not a labelled diagram. Which one of those dimensions is height?

Try again please.

I'll tell you what...

Look at this picture of a box.

What is the width of this box?
What is the height of this box?
What is the depth of this box?
What is the breadth of this box?

AV1611VET · Nov 29, 2016

KTS said:
1. What is the width of this box?
2. What is the height of this box?
3. What is the depth of this box?
4. What is the breadth of this box?

1. 35 cm
2. 21 cm
3. 28 cm
4. 35 cm

You're Arab phoning those dimensions, aren't you?

How did we get from breadth, length, depth, and height to width, height, depth, and breadth?

And according to string theory, Paul is six spatial dimensions short, isn't he?

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