My Finch Challenge

[AV1611VET]

YOU don't get to decide who is a Christian and who isn't.

But YOU do ... right?

Slavers were Christian. There were no people back then who were anything else.

 

[Phred]

That's gonna change when Jesus returns.

But until then, what about the father? does he have any say in the matter? or my taxes?

Jesus ain't coming back.

The father has nothing to say. It's not his body.

Go read the Hyde amendment if you're so concerned about your taxes. It specifically prohibits them from being used for abortions. Has since 1985. I notice you never post about your taxes being used to turn little Arab kids into skeletons so I really don't think you care about killing kids.

 

[Phred]

But YOU do ... right?

I don't care who is a Christian and who isn't. I do care about people who are hypocrites. That I seem to care quite a lot about.

 

[Ponderous Curmudgeon]

How is this a part of the discussion?

you were arguing the significance of the abbreviation to the title of a book.

 

[AV1611VET]

I've read the entirety of Genesis (among other books of the Bible); a little more than a page.

Um ... creationism entails the first two chapters.

Yes, there are details inserted later throughout the Bible, but for the most part, creationism is the first chapter ... period.

So I don't care if you read the whole Bible. It's the first chapter that matters.

Too much for you?

Not interested.

I think the longest single book I've ever read was about 1200 pages. How about you?

The Bible -- twelve times.

Along with college courses, and literally three bookcases of theology.

Along with memberships to clubs, watched videos, shows and more.

 

[Phred]

I’m also sorry for the fathers whose sons or daughters are murdered by their partner.

I wonder if those who verbally agreed with the murder of the unborn will face the same judgement from God as those who did it?

God would have to exist first. Then he would have to be angry about it. The same god who sent two bears to kill 42 kids for making fun of a guy for being bald. Yeah... that god.

 

[AV1611VET]

Right, you have a fetish for Darwin's book titles.

No judgement here.

Good.

Then don't judge me "wrong" and expect me to believe it.

 

[Phred]

Um ... creationism entails the first two chapters.

Yes, there are details inserted later throughout the Bible, but for the most part, creationism is the first chapter ... period.

So I don't care if you read the whole Bible. It's the first chapter that matters.Not interested.The Bible -- twelve times.

Along with college courses, and literally three bookcases of theology.

Along with memberships to clubs, watched videos, shows and more.

This right here is called admitting ignorance.

 

[AV1611VET]

Where you try to turn it into a book about human beings and racism.

Post 292 please. Then follow the link.

 

[AV1611VET]

This right here is called admitting ignorance.

I wear it like a badge of honor.

 

[pitabread]

Um ... creationism entails the first two chapters.

That's debatable, since a lot of creationists use other passages from the Bible to support their position re: creationism.

So I don't care if you read the whole Bible. It's the first chapter that matters.

Yet you were trying to criticize me for the very same.

Not interested.

I think it would be too much for you. It is a bit of a slog, after all.

(For the record, I haven't read Origin in its entirety either. Parts of it, but not the full text.)

 

[Hank77]

No, I haven't even heard of it.

I know most people won't want to listen to a 2-hour lecture, I'm usually one of those, but this one with speaker John Lennox held my attention. I think whether one is a Christian or non-Christian they might find it interesting, too.

 

[Subduction Zone]

But YOU do ... right?

No, that is an example of those people deciding that they are Christians. Their decision that they are Christians is just as valid as your decision that you are a Christian.

 

[AV1611VET]

That's debatable, since a lot of creationists use other passages from the Bible to support their position re: creationism.

Yes, and that's where they go wrong.

I'm guilty of that too.

When discussing creationism, one should NEVER allow himself to be pulled outside of Genesis 1, or the discussion will QUICKLY change focus to the Fall, the Flood, the Crusades, the veracity of the Bible -- anything but what happened that first week in 4004 BC.

 

[AV1611VET]

No, that is an example of those people deciding that they are Christians.

Somehow that point got left out of his post.

So I don't believe you.

Their decision that they are Christians is just as valid as your decision that you are a Christian.

I didn't "decide" I was a Christian.

And for the record, if everyone is going to call everyone who winked at the Bible a "Christian," then let's use the word that Paul used most: "saint."

 

[Subduction Zone]

Somehow that point got left out of his post.

So I don't believe you.I didn't "decide" I was a Christian.

And for the record, if everyone is going to call everyone who winked at the Bible a "Christian," then let's use the word that Paul used most: "saint."

Actually you did decided that you are a Christian. No one else decided for you.

 

[Phred]

I wear it like a badge of honor.

I know you do. I find that rather sad.

 

[AV1611VET]

Actually you did decided that you are a Christian. No one else decided for you.

Do auto mechanics decide they're auto mechanics?

How about cops? doctors? astronomers? farmers? taxi drivers? airline pilots? military personnel?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Do auto mechanics decide they're auto mechanics?

How about cops? doctors? astronomers? farmers? taxi drivers? airline pilots? military personnel?

Yep, that is what they tend to do. Now others can see that they are what they claim. You don't seem to realize that when you try to refute the Christianity of others that by the same standards you refute your own claims to be a Christian.

 

[HitchSlap]

Somehow that point got left out of his post.

So I don't believe you.I didn't "decide" I was a Christian.

And for the record, if everyone is going to call everyone who winked at the Bible a "Christian," then let's use the word that Paul used most: "saint."

Well, that’s kinda how it works, buddy. Unless of course you can produce a genetic test or membership card, people who call themselves Christians, are guess what… Christians.

Now of course, I was just like you when I was a Christian, and had that spidey sense that let me recognize True Christians, but at the end of the day, it boils down to self reporting.

Whadya’ gonna’ do?