MY favorite arguments for the existence of the Christian God:

[Belk]

1. Consensus of opinion.

• Every single believer ... past, present, and future ... believes IN THE BEGINNING, GOD. If consensus of opinion carries so much academic weight, then they should give this point a lot more consideration than they do.

2. Cause-and-Effect.

• Edifices, literature, holidays, songs, artwork, history and martyrs all attest to God's existence. If cause-and-effect carries so much academic weight, then they should give this point a lot more consideration than they do.

No wonder you are so angry all the time.

 

[DavidFirth]

Academics use the scientific method, they don't ask "who believe what?" and form a conclusion from that. They come up with a hypothesis and test it.

Meaning that they deny the existence of any god out of hand.

 

[DavidFirth]

Well I’ve got to say that you’re wrong, god has never shown himself to me. He could if he wanted but he doesn’t. In any event, of a god exists, who can tell if he’s the god of the bible or some other religious cult?

Personally I don’t believe in any god BUT if I’m wrong I reckon it’s the same god for everyone. However, why he remains so hidden is a mystery to me!!

See Romans 1:20. It is obvious God exists. It's common sense.

 

[DavidFirth]

That sounds great. Unfortunately when I undertook to test the hypothesis of my faith (the hypothesis I had accepted for decades) I ultimately found too little evidence to continue accepting it.

I am glad for people who find reason to believe. It brings them comfort. And usually they use that to do good in the world. (Not always).

I no longer believe but I knocked on the door for a pretty long time. Rang the door bell several times. Peeked in the windows as well (hard to get over the shrubs). Waited to see inside whenever the UPS guy stopped by. But sadly I didn't see anyone home.

Sadly, you sold out due to a lack of faith. It happens.

 

[Speedwell]

Meaning that they deny the existence of any god out of hand.

No, they just regard it as an unfalsifiable proposition, therefore outside of the realm of science. Many "academics" have no difficulty believing in God. The scientific method does not preclude it.

 

[HitchSlap]

1. Consensus of opinion.

• Every single believer ... past, present, and future ... believes IN THE BEGINNING, GOD. If consensus of opinion carries so much academic weight, then they should give this point a lot more consideration than they do.

2. Cause-and-Effect.

• Edifices, literature, holidays, songs, artwork, history and martyrs all attest to God's existence. If cause-and-effect carries so much academic weight, then they should give this point a lot more consideration than they do.

Here, I'll make this easy for you:

MY favorite arguments for the existence of the Santa Claus:

1. Consensus of opinion.

• Every single believer ... past, present, and future ... believes IN SANTA CLAUS. If consensus of opinion carries so much academic weight, then they should give this point a lot more consideration than they do.

2. Cause-and-Effect.

• Edifices, literature, holidays, songs, artwork, history and little kids the world over, all attest to SANTA CLAUS' existence. If cause-and-effect carries so much academic weight, then they should give this point a lot more consideration than they do.

 

[HitchSlap]

Sadly, you sold out due to a lack of faith. It happens.

How would you distinguish lack of faith from lack of evidence?

 

[AV1611VET]

Silly me, I thought that was about soteriology, not buildings.

You'll have to talk to the Catholics and others about that.

We don't believe in salvation by works.

We have ordinances ... not sacraments.

 

[AV1611VET]

Here, I'll make this easy for you:

MY favorite arguments for the existence of the Santa Claus:

Short of calling you a liar ... which I will not do ... I'll simply ask you this:

Do you really believe that yourself?

If not ... okay if I don't, either?

And while you're mocking my evidence, how about you show me someone who was martyred for believing in and/or writing about Santa Claus?

 

[HitchSlap]

We don't believe in salvation by works.

Well, without works, your faith is "dead."

14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

 

[AV1611VET]

No wonder you are so angry all the time.

???

You've read all my posts, have you?

 

[HitchSlap]

Short of calling you a liar ... which I will not do ... I'll simply ask you this:

Do you really believe that yourself?

If not ... okay if I don't, either?

And while you're mocking my evidence, how about you show me someone who was martyred for believing in and/or writing about Santa Claus?

I'm mocking your argument. It's a stupid one.

 

[AV1611VET]

Well, without works, your faith is "dead."

14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

I'm familiar with the passage ... thanks!

 

[AV1611VET]

I'm mocking your argument. It's a stupid one.

In your opinion, was yours just as stupid?

Or do you share my opinion that it was stupider?

 

[HitchSlap]

???

You've read all my posts, have you?

You mean, counted all your posts, don't you.

 

[HitchSlap]

In your opinion, was yours just as stupid?

Or do you share my opinion that it was stupider?

Stupid arguments are stupid.

 

[Belk]

???

You've read all my posts, have you?

No, nor do I need to in order to comment.

 

[Obliquinaut]

Sadly, you sold out due to a lack of faith. It happens.

What do you mean by "sold out"?

 

[DavidFirth]

What do you mean by "sold out"?

You don't understand the phrase?

 

[HitchSlap]

You don't understand the phrase?

You mean like someone who is really dedicated to not collecting stamps?