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For those of you who ask for evidence of creatio ex nihilo, I offer this challenge:

Name one or two things that would would be different in the evidence department if the earth would have been created exDeo, rather than ex nihilo.

Please stay within the confines of Genesis 1.

Thank you.
 

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For those of you who ask for evidence of creatio ex nihilo, I offer this challenge:

Name one or two things that would would be different in the evidence department if the earth would have been created exDeo, rather than ex nihilo.

Please stay within the confines of Genesis 1.

Thank you.

What is "ExDeo?"

Regardless, what about GEN2-14?????? Checkmate creo! :wave:
 
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For those of you who ask for evidence of creatio ex nihilo, I offer this challenge:

Name one or two things that would would be different in the evidence department if the earth would have been created exDeo, rather than ex nihilo.

Please stay within the confines of Genesis 1.

Thank you.
I have no idea what any if this means.
 
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Why? did I mention evidence?

No, you mentioned ex nihilo and ex Deo, two concepts that have nothing to do with Physical and Life Sciences. I think the appropriate forum for this type of question would be Origins Theology.
 
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What is "ExDeo?"
Out of God.
Ex nihilo is a Latin phrase meaning "out of nothing". It often appears in conjunction with the concept of creation, as in creatio ex nihilo, meaning "creation out of nothing"—chiefly in philosophical or theological contexts, but also occurs in other fields.

In theology, the common phrase creatio ex nihilo ("creation out of nothing"), contrasts with creatio ex materia (creation out of some pre-existent, eternal matter) and with creatio ex deo (creation out of the being of God).

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Ex Deo is a Canadian death metal band formed in 2008 in Montreal, Quebec.

God placed Lucifer in charge of music ...

Ezekiel 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

The music industry ... especially the rebellious side ... is adorned with religious iconography.
 
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God placed Lucifer in charge of music ...

Ezekiel 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

The music industry ... especially the rebellious side ... is adorned with religious iconography.

Once again, wrong forum.
 
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I have no idea what any if this means.

People ask for evidence of Genesis 1, which is creatio ex nihilo.

I'm wondering what specific evidence they would be expecting to see if Genesis 1 was creatio ex Deo, instead.
 
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No, you mentioned ex nihilo and ex Deo, two concepts that have nothing to do with Physical and Life Sciences. I think the appropriate forum for this type of question would be Origins Theology.

Did I post this there too?
 
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Ex deo?

You mean, the universe created _out_ of God?

Well... I think there was a family guy scene of that.

Of course, the universe was not created out of god, neither it was created out of nothing. It was created out of the chaos Eris left after a glass of portwine too much.
 
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Of course, the universe was not created out of god, neither it was created out of nothing. It was created out of the chaos Eris left after a glass of portwine too much.

That would fall under the heading creatio ex materia; and I'm thinking about an ex materia challenge thread as well. :)
 
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People ask for evidence of Genesis 1, which is creatio ex nihilo.

I'm wondering what specific evidence they would be expecting to see if Genesis 1 was creatio ex Deo, instead.

I don't actually see the difference between nihilo and deo but that's just me.
 
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I don't actually see the difference between nihilo and deo but that's just me.

Did you read the Wikipedia article?

Creatio ex nihilo is creation out of nothing.

In other words, a second party -- God, in this case -- calls SOMETHING out of NOTHING.

In creatio ex Deo, what God creates is an extension of Himself.

All is of God.

Let's use a snowman as an example.

In creatio ex nihilo, a snowman creates an igloo out of thin air.

In creatio ex Deo, a snowman creates an igloo by taking some of his own snow, melting it, freezing it into ice, and building an igloo.
 
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Did you read the Wikipedia article?

Creatio ex nihilo is creation out of nothing.

In other words, a second party -- God, in this case -- calls SOMETHING out of NOTHING.

In creatio ex Deo, what God creates is an extension of Himself.

All is of God.

Let's use a snowman as an example.

In creatio ex nihilo, a snowman creates an igloo out of thin air.

In creatio ex Deo, a snowman creates an igloo by taking some of his own snow, melting it, freezing it into ice, and building an igloo.
I thought igloos were made from compacted snow.
 
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