My Ex-nihilo Challenge

[AV1611VET]

Don't worry, that's when Jesus will return and the rapture will commence, or something equally asinine.

What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?

 

[Danyc]

Don't count on it, I can see the enemy moving in after that for cleanup --- then resettling the land, thinking they won.

And shortly afterward, on a clear moonlit night, someone saying, "Did you hear something?"

And they turn around, and there stands the entire Israeli Army --- and they say ---

"How can this be!?"

Whereupon the Israeli Army says, "You obviously didn't get the memo, did you?"

And they say, "What memo?"

And the Israel Army replies, "Ezekiel 37."

Note especially Verse Ten ---Whereup they pwn their enemies into the next dispensation.

And how will this army be armed? With machine guns and rifles?

Will they have swords and shields?


Will they have anything, especially after everything in Israel and the surrounding areas was vaporized? Including any weaponry?

 

[AV1611VET]

And how will this army be armed? With machine guns and rifles?

Will they have swords and shields?


Will they have anything, especially after everything in Israel and the surrounding areas was vaporized? Including any weaponry?

Stay in Sunday School, son ---

Then said David to the Philistine, Thou comest to me with a sword, and with a spear, and with a shield: but I come to thee in the name of the LORD of hosts, the God of the armies of Israel, whom thou hast defied.

 

[Vene]

Stay in Sunday School, son ---

Ah, they'll have rocks.

And here is Ezekiel 37 with more context:
1The hand of the LORD was upon me, and carried me out in the spirit of the LORD, and set me down in the midst of the valley which was full of bones, 2And caused me to pass by them round about: and, behold, there were very many in the open valley; and, lo, they were very dry.
3And he said unto me, Son of man, can these bones live? And I answered, O Lord GOD, thou knowest.
4Again he said unto me, Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, O ye dry bones, hear the word of the LORD.
5Thus saith the Lord GOD unto these bones; Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live:
6And I will lay sinews upon you, and will bring up flesh upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and ye shall live; and ye shall know that I am the LORD.
7So I prophesied as I was commanded: and as I prophesied, there was a noise, and behold a shaking, and the bones came together, bone to his bone.
8And when I beheld, lo, the sinews and the flesh came up upon them, and the skin covered them above: but there was no breath in them.
9Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live.
10So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army.




Sounds an awful lot like necromancy to me. You hear that, Israel's army will be an army of undead!

 

[Danyc]

Stay in Sunday School, son ---

That doesn't say what their arms are. It says "come in the name of" not "come with (insert random weapon here)

So, what weapons will this army be packing? Swords of light? Shields of justice?

 

[plindboe]

Stay in Sunday School, son ---

And the LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.

Let's just hope there won't be any chariots involved.

Peter

 

[gaara4158]

Let's just hope there won't be any chariots involved.

Peter

So God is powerless against tanks! That explains why he let the Holocaust and all those terrible genocides and wars happen!

That also means that as long as you have a tank, even God can't stop you.

good to know

 

[AV1611VET]

So God is powerless against tanks!

Interesting you should mention that.

From Apocalypse Next, by William R. Goetz, p. 97, speaking on the Yom Kippur War ---

The Arab assault was massive. In the north, the Syrians threw 1200 tanks into a twenty-mile front, 25 percent more tanks than the Germans used in a 200-mile offensive against Russia, in 1941! What has been called "the greatest tank battle in world history" was fought in the Sinai. According to new reports at the time, approximately 4000 tanks, over 2000 heavy guns, hundreds of missile batteries, 1500 aircraft and nearly one million men as well as many unproven new weapons were thrown at Israel at the start of the war. It was the Middle East's first truly technological war.

 

[gaara4158]

Interesting you should mention that.

From Apocalypse Next, by William R. Goetz, p. 97, speaking on the Yom Kippur War ---

Wow, you pulled a LLoJ. Watch yourself, now.

 

[Eudaimonist]

That also means that as long as you have a tank, even God can't stop you.

I think the tank has to be made of iron. Accept no substitutes!


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[gaara4158]

I think the tank has to be made of iron. Accept no substitutes!


eudaimonia,

Mark

I guess it's like God's Kryptonite?

 

[Vene]

I think the tank has to be made of iron. Accept no substitutes!


eudaimonia,

Mark

What about steel? After all, steel is just an alloy of iron and carbon.

 

[MrGoodBytes]

Miracles abound! Though beset by ruthless enemies on all sides, all it took was political backing by the world's only remaining superpower and billions of dollars annually in both military technology and direct aid to keep Israel alive!

 

[Skaloop]

That's a poor reason not to believe in something. Just because you can't see it in a microscope or telescope, or recreate it in a laboratory.

Says the man who doesn't accept evolution for that very reason.

 

[gaara4158]

Says the man who doesn't accept evolution for that very reason.

That's not the real reason he won't accept it, that's just his cover/rationalization. The real reason is because he's afraid to consider that perhaps creation really isn't true, and that God, if he exists at all, isn't what he's thought he is.

 

[MrGoodBytes]

Says the man who doesn't accept evolution for that very reason.

Ouch.

 

[AV1611VET]

Says the man who doesn't accept evolution for that very reason.

Ouch.

That's not the reason, and he knows it. I put my [four basic] reasons right up in the storefront window here (made them their own thread).

 

[MrGoodBytes]

That's not the reason, and he knows it. I put my [four basic] reasons right up in the storefront window here (made them their own thread).

Perhaps, but it's still telling that you consider scientists who will not believe in something that cannot be recreated in a laboratory irrational, while at the same time posing absurd strawman arguments about how evolution must be false unless biologists can create a human being in a laboratory.

 

[AV1611VET]

Perhaps, but it's still telling that you consider scientists who will not believe in something that cannot be recreated in a laboratory irrational, while at the same time posing absurd strawman arguments about how evolution must be false unless biologists can create a human being in a laboratory.

Unless?

Not hardly.

As I have said many times before --- even if you could create a star NFL quarterback in a laboratory, I wouldn't believe we got here via evolution.

 

[Nathan Poe]

Unless?

Not hardly.

As I have said many times before --- even if you could create a star NFL quarterback in a laboratory, I wouldn't believe we got here via evolution.

So evidence can take a hike?