My Desire

[FutureAndAHope]

I was watching a DVD last night from Creation Ministries International, and they showed the actual footage from Adolf Hitler’s war time propaganda, it has horrific, yet 100% birthed in evolution. He blatantly said that to not kill disabled people was a crime against evolutions natural selection, using natural selection to justify the killing of millions.


I have also been an advocate for the right of prisoners in North Korea for many years. North Korea is an atheist state, teaching evolution as the only means to explain the universe. The nation also commits terrible atrocities against its own people, some worse than Hitlers. Human chemical and medical experimentation, beatings, executions, gassings, etc.


The fact is all modern day states that have been dominated by atheist thinking have killed many of their own people. The problem for us as a Nation is we are moving towards atheist thinking, removing Jesus from classrooms, and replacing it with evolution alone. Societies based upon evolution alone have always persecuted and killed their own people.
We need to repent and turn back to God. We need to be introducing the alternative to evolution into our classrooms. I believe that we need to teach Creation Science, which is a viable alternative to evolution, and is no less backed by science.

 

[Gracchus]

So FutureAndAHope starts right of playing the Hitler card!

The fact is all modern day states that have been dominated by atheist thinking have killed many of their own people.

And Nazi Germany engraved on the belt buckles of their soldiers and concentration camp guards, the slogan "Gott Mit Uns". Hitler was publicly Christian whatever his personal beliefs, and it was a good Christian population that carried out or stood by and watched the pogroms and the holocaust.

You can always distinguish the true Christian by his willingness to gouge the mote out of his neighbor's eye, his fondness for public piety, and his prominent righteousness.

 

[justlookinla]

I was watching a DVD last night from Creation Ministries International, and they showed the actual footage from Adolf Hitler’s war time propaganda, it has horrific, yet 100% birthed in evolution. He blatantly said that to not kill disabled people was a crime against evolutions natural selection, using natural selection to justify the killing of millions.


I have also been an advocate for the right of prisoners in North Korea for many years. North Korea is an atheist state, teaching evolution as the only means to explain the universe. The nation also commits terrible atrocities against its own people, some worse than Hitlers. Human chemical and medical experimentation, beatings, executions, gassings, etc.


The fact is all modern day states that have been dominated by atheist thinking have killed many of their own people. The problem for us as a Nation is we are moving towards atheist thinking, removing Jesus from classrooms, and replacing it with evolution alone. Societies based upon evolution alone have always persecuted and killed their own people.
We need to repent and turn back to God. We need to be introducing the alternative to evolution into our classrooms. I believe that we need to teach Creation Science, which is a viable alternative to evolution, and is no less backed by science.

Similar thinking is used for the acceptable killing of millions of babies every year. Abortionists are modern day Nazis in that sense.

 

[Gottservant]

I'm not sure if this thread will last - they have some sort of problem with using the Holocaust as an argument here - but I must say it continues to disturb me.

Faulty logic, is no basis for purification of the species (selah)

 

[crjmurray]

I'm not sure if this thread will last - they have some sort of problem with using the Holocaust as an argument here - but I must say it continues to disturb me.

Faulty logic, is no basis for purification of the species (selah)

Probably because it was an incredibly terrible event that many people try to draw misguided and offensive comparisons to. But that's none of my business.....

 

[Gottservant]

I think specifically, my problem is that if we are evolved, the greater the commitment to the preservation of the species, the more naturally responsive adaptations will be able to flourish.

As soon as you introduce eradication as an absolute selection pressure, you make the odds of responding dynamically to selection pressure in general, zero.

Well, so if you think you can adapt with zero percent probability that you will do it dynamically, you are fantasizing, you are not adapting.

 

[crjmurray]

I think specifically, my problem is that if we are evolved, the greater the commitment to the preservation of the species, the more naturally responsive adaptations will be able to flourish.

As soon as you introduce eradication as an absolute selection pressure, you make the odds of responding dynamically to selection pressure in general, zero.

Well, so if you think you can adapt with zero percent probability that you will do it dynamically, you are fantasizing, you are not adapting.

Why Gott? Why pick this thread to say something that makes sense?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Why does the OP think that Hitler was an atheist? There is practically no credible evidence to support that. He was a self-professed Christian all of his life and if he was a member here one would have to accept him as a Christian according to the forum rules.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Similar thinking is used for the acceptable killing of millions of babies every year. Abortionists are modern day Nazis in that sense.

And yet there is ample evidence that in the Old Testament at least that fetuses were not considered to be human and only poetic verses that can be interpreted multiple ways support the claims of the right to lifers.

 

[Gottservant]

Why Gott? Why pick this thread to say something that makes sense?

lol

It's not as if there aren't appropriate evolutionary protocols we could be implementing, its just that survival of the fittest is the Devil's favourite

 

[justlookinla]

Never mind. I'd be derailing the thread.

 

[True Scotsman]

So FutureAndAHope starts right of playing the Hitler card!
And Nazi Germany engraved on the belt buckles of their soldiers and concentration camp guards, the slogan "Gott Mit Uns". Hitler was publicly Christian whatever his personal beliefs, and it was a good Christian population that carried out or stood by and watched the pogroms and the holocaust.

You can always distinguish the true Christian by his willingness to gouge the mote out of his neighbor's eye, his fondness for public piety, and his prominent righteousness.

He also believed that divine providence was on his side. He believed it was protecting him. Hitler was not an atheist and he was guided by the very same fundamental principles as most religions, the morality of selfless sacrifice. Religion prepared the population by preaching self sacrifice and altruism. The Nazis were platonists and mystics and Hitler cashed in on the philosophic foundations laid by the church. He simply changed the beneficiary of the sacrifice from God to the "people". He said that the Aryan was the exponent of selfless sacrifice. Over and over again in his speeches he invoked altruism. The Nazis were explicit in advocating altruism and sacrifice. The basic principle of religion and of Nazism is the same: man has no right to live for his own sake. He must live for others whether that be a god, a country or a tribe. There are countless variations of the practice of the morality of sacrifice but they all share the same fundamental principle. The latest one is environmentalism. Man must sacrifice himself for rivers and forests. And when that fails it will be another version.

Christians should take a good, long look at the fundamental principles that they share with every dictator who has ever lived. Hitler could not have done what he did, nor Stalin, Pol Pot or Mao on an Aristotelian foundation.

 

[Blue Wren]

Similar thinking is used for the acceptable killing of millions of babies every year. Abortionists are modern day Nazis in that sense.

Wouldn't pregnant women, have been amongst those killed, in the genocidal flood? Noah did not put pregnant women, or children, on the ark, did he?

 

[FutureAndAHope]

Why does the OP think that Hitler was an atheist? There is practically no credible evidence to support that. He was a self-professed Christian all of his life and if he was a member here one would have to accept him as a Christian according to the forum rules.

Whether or not Hitler was an atheist, he as an evolutionist, it is evolution the back bone of Atheism that kills. Think of all the Atheist states that have existed in our time, and the vast majority of them have killed their own. Every state that embraced evolution and removed religion started killing and oppressing their own people. It is just fact. As for Hitler is just goes to show how dangerous evolution is is polluting the mind. No God, no morality.

 

[Herman Hedning]

... No God, no morality.

That is an incredibly offensive statement. And it is of course also completely wrong.

 

[VirOptimus]

-snip- Think of all the Atheist states that have existed in our time, and the vast majority of them have killed their own. -snip-.

Then why does the US have the death penalty?

Besides, a state cannot be atheist, only individuals.

 

[sandybay]

it is evolution the back bone of Atheism that kills.

Is that why there are so many Christians who accept evolution? because they are secretly atheists?

When predators hunt they always look to kill the weakest because they are easier to catch.

When preachers preach they usually go to deprived areas because badly educated people are more susceptible.

 

[JGG]

Why does the OP think that Hitler was an atheist?

In the mind of the Christian it's a very simple cognitive connection: (1) I hate Hitler. (2) I hate atheists. (3) Hitler must be an atheist.

Seriously, that's it.

 

[justlookinla]

Is that why there are so many Christians who accept evolution? because they are secretly atheists?

You're using the typical bait and switch technique of evolutionists who attempt to use the term "evolution" as a monolithic term. It's not.

Claiming that Christians accept evolution is misleading and inaccurate.

 

[sandybay]

Claiming that Christians accept evolution is misleading and inaccurate.

In what way? are there Christians who accept evolution or are there not?
If they exist those Christians must either be deluded or be secret atheists.

justlookinla 99% of your arguments fail before they have even been typed.