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But it would certainly lend credence to the idea that apples can be created ex nihilo...
I already did. I even pointed it out to you. You're either too stubborn or too dishonest to admit that your "challenge" is just as ludicrous and inane as mine.Thank you --- you want to answer my OP, now?
I have had people "create" cards, coins, birds, all sorts of things out of "nothing" in front of me before. Every time it was a simple magic trick, if you refuse to provide evidence otherwise why should I believe you?
I couldn't care less. It's not my job to further "lend credence" to my own hypothetical. In other words, I shouldn't have to dance through hoops if I create an apple and hand it to you and ask a simple question. If you don't have an answer - you simply don't have an answer; and there's nothing wrong with admitting that.
True, 8th rule of magic is never repeat the same trickI have had people "create" cards, coins, birds, all sorts of things out of "nothing" in front of me before. Every time it was a simple magic trick, if you refuse to provide evidence otherwise why should I believe you?
The refusal to provide evidence or even repeat the apple creation further pushes people to believe it was just a trick.
You don't.
How does this thread differ from spam? Especially with you refusing to answer decent posts that you don't like because they don't say exactly what you want them to say.Bear, believe it or not, someone started another thread somewhere about caterpillars morphing into butterflies; and I answered with a children's song saying, in so many words, "God did it" (pertaining to that very topic) --- and I got reported for spamming.
I promise you --- I won't stoop to that level here.
So all I have is your word?
Yeah, because no one's ever told a lie in order to put themselves into a better position.
Until you can give me proof, you'll get no belief from me.
Would you believe me if I told you that the apple I was holding had been created ex nihilo just a few moments ago? Even if I couldn't provide any supporting evidence at all?
I present to you an apple that was created ex nihilo.
How can you refuse to accept that --- without being wrong?
1 + 1 = 2.
How can you refuse to accept that --- without being wrong?
Indeed. It's just a rehash of the old apple challange.Especially with you refusing to answer decent posts that you don't like because they don't say exactly what you want them to say.
Indeed. It's just a rehash of the old apple challange.
I present to you an apple that was created ex nihilo.
How can you refuse to accept that --- without being wrong?
In a way --- yes.
This challenge is different, though. In the original challenge, you are the "middleman." I give you an apple, and ask you to take it to your friend. There are three parties involved.
But in this challenge, you are the "end man." You are given an apple by me. There are only two parties involved.
The perspectives have changed.
I can't refuse to accept that without being wrong. But I don't know that I'm wrong, and what you claim to have done goes against all known science, as well as my personal experience.I present to you an apple that was created ex nihilo.
How can you refuse to accept that --- without being wrong?
I hand an ordinary apple to you, and claim that I just bought it from the grocery store. I show you the receipt.
How can you refuse to accept THAT without being wrong?
I present to you an apple that was created ex nihilo.
How can you refuse to accept that --- without being wrong?
Okay, let's try this.
I present to you a universe and its contents which I created ex nihilo five minutes ago - the very universe we are in, actually, and everything in it. I'm not claiming it, I am stating it as fact.
How can you refuse to accept it without being wrong?
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