My Abiogenesis Challenge

[Kylie]

What part of cosmic evolution is abiogenesis under?

The two have nothing to do with each other.

Cosmic evolution is about how stars develop over the billions of years of their existence.

Abiogenesis is about the formation of biological life.

It's like me asking what part of the Bible is the Council of Nicea in?

 

[AV1611VET]

Cosmic evolution is about how stars develop over the billions of years of their existence.

Wrong.

That's stellar evolution.

Cosmic Evolution

 

[Kylie]

Wrong.

That's stellar evolution.

Cosmic Evolution

Fine, how the universe develops.

Typical of someone who has no valid point to hide behind quibbles over the exact terminology...

 

[AV1611VET]

Fine, how the universe develops.

Are you ready to answer the challenge now?

 

[Larniavc]

Hey, chief, I frankly don't care what it is and isn't.

But whatever it is(n't), it falls under one of seven different compartments of cosmic evolution, and I'm asking which one.

None of them.

 

[Kylie]

Are you ready to answer the challenge now?

I believe I answered that in post 41.

The two have nothing to do with each other. I suspect that if you paid attention to my post instead of quibbling over my word choice, you'd have got that.

 

[Gene2memE]

What part of cosmic evolution is abiogenesis under?

No part.

Abiogenesis deals with the development of biotic life from pre-biotic self replicating molecules, which themselves develop from simpler chemicals.

Cosmic evolution deals with the development and formation of the universe from the Big Bang event through the the present day.

Both deal with changes over time and both have unanswered - and perhaps unanswerable - questions, but apart from that they share very little in common.

Cosmic evolution: Macro scale - deals with the formation of the structure of the universe
Abiogenesis: Micro scale - deals with chemical state changes and bio-molecular replicators on one particular planet, in a not particularly distinguished spiral arm of a not particularly interesting galaxy.

 

[Larniavc]

Hey, chief, I frankly don't care what it is and isn't.

But whatever it is(n't), it falls under one of seven different compartments of cosmic evolution, and I'm asking which one.

AV, I know you are not stupid so I know you understand what I'm trying to communicate to you.

If you disagree fine. Let's leave it at that.

 

[quatona]

What part of cosmic evolution is abiogenesis under?

The best part.

 

[AV1611VET]

None of them.

Groovy.

Then it's just a figment of your imagination?

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

What part of cosmic evolution is abiogenesis under?

"cosmic evolution" is about how elements like hydrogen and helium fused into heavier elements in the core of stars and during supernovae, fusing in even heavier elements. At least, that's how I understand it. The formation of 1ste, 2nd and 3rd generations of stars and how these stars produced the elements we have today.

It has exactly zero to do with how chemical compounds can come together to form "living" things.

 

[AV1611VET]

Cosmic evolution deals with the development and formation of the universe from the Big Bang event through the the present day.

And it deals with it by separating time into seven distinct periods.

Which distinct period does abiogenesis occur?

 

[AV1611VET]

AV, I know you are not stupid so I know you understand what I'm trying to communicate to you.

If you disagree fine. Let's leave it at that.

You chimed in and contributed nothing in the way of answering this challenge.

All you did was confirm it as a challenge.

You came in here to tell me abiogenesis is biochemistry, not cosmology; but then you didn't tell me which compartment abiogenesis occurred.

Now you want me to understand what you're trying to communicate to me?

Sure ... I understand.

Nothing.

 

[AV1611VET]

"cosmic evolution" is about how elements like hydrogen and helium fused into heavier elements in the core of stars and during supernovae, fusing in even heavier elements.

Cosmic evolution is a collective term that can be broken down into seven different sub-compartments.

The one you just described falls under the stellar evolution sub-compartment.

 

[Kylie]

Groovy.

Then it's just a figment of your imagination?

No. It just isn't related at all.

What part of the Bible does the process for topping up my car's brake fluids fall under?

 

[AV1611VET]

What part of the Bible does the process for topping up my car's brake fluids fall under?

Show me from a Harvard site where the Bible mentions it.

Show me from a NASA site where the Bible mentions it.

Show me from Wikipedia where the Bible mentions it.

I think I've done my part in educating you guys about your own philosophy.

Now it's your turn to answer this challenge or gracefully bow out.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Do you realize how complex a life form has to be to be able to feed through photosynthesis? Why not just say God had to do it?
Where would the chlorophyll and carbon dioxide come from?

So you've never heard of bacteria then? Or plankton?

 

[quatona]

I think I've done my part in educating you guys about your own philosophy.

Which philosophy would that be?

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Cosmic evolution is a collective term that can be broken down into seven different sub-compartments.

The one you just described falls under the stellar evolution sub-compartment.

Is that the Kent Hovind model of scientific nonsense?
It sure sounds like it.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Which philosophy would that be?

The one that can take a hike.