Must be more of that vaunted liberal tolerance...

[_Zap_]

In reply to _Zap_'s posts #8, #17 and #37 ... there is little use for ad homs- they do not constitute as any form of evidence. You also use a guilt-by-association fallacy (it too not constituting as evidence) by attempting to associate Gary's apparent behaviour with the behaviour of the Truth Movement. You even claim that this somehow "proves ... the derangement of the truthers." How? It is a logical fallacy.
At the same time, you claim that WeAreChange is a liberal organization and yet you claim that Gary's apparent behaviour is not representative of all liberals, but somehow, it is representative of the Truth movement. Amazing. You can choose what Gary's behaviour is representative of.

The Truth movement consists of people yelling incoherently, crying oppression for no reason, and being extremely violent.

Why are Truthers violent? Because they see everyone else as either evil or sheep, neither one of which are worthy of much consideration. A Truther is the star of his own little action movie and has no basis in reality. Are all Truthers violent? No, but a lot of them are and those that aren't actually try to defend the ones that do inexcusable actions (like Gary did).

Truthers have no respect for much of the law, because the law is the product of an evil, fascist government who slaughters its citizens.

 

[Ringo84]

The Truth movement consists of people yelling incoherently, crying oppression for no reason, and being extremely violent.

Why are Truthers violent? Because they see everyone else as either evil or sheep, neither one of which are worthy of much consideration. A Truther is the star of his own little action movie and has no basis in reality. Are all Truthers violent? No, but a lot of them are and those that aren't actually try to defend the ones that do inexcusable actions (like Gary did).

Truthers have no respect for much of the law, because the law is the product of an evil, fascist government who slaughters its citizens.

They also are not representative of liberals in general, as some have claimed on this thread.
Ringo

 

[_Zap_]

They also are not representative of liberals in general, as some have claimed on this thread.
Ringo

Which is exactly what I said in my last post.

 

[Ringo84]

Which is exactly what I said in my last post.

Oh that's right. Thank you.
Ringo

 

[Mongoose]

So! Partisanship is dangerous! Imagine that!

Of course, that doesn't stop the "other side" from coming in here and taking advantage of the situation to spew their own partisan nonsense.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

The Truth movement consists of people yelling incoherently, crying oppression for no reason, and being extremely violent.

Why are Truthers violent? Because they see everyone else as either evil or sheep, neither one of which are worthy of much consideration. A Truther is the star of his own little action movie and has no basis in reality. Are all Truthers violent? No, but a lot of them are and those that aren't actually try to defend the ones that do inexcusable actions (like Gary did).

Truthers have no respect for much of the law, because the law is the product of an evil, fascist government who slaughters its citizens.

Incredibly massive strawman.
Not all members of the Truth movement yell incoherently and cry oppression and are violent. Many participate in civil disobedience. Many write books, articles, letters and conduct research. Many speak out. Many conduct petitions and ballots calling for an independent inquiry. Even your claim that "Truthers have no respect for much of the law," is highly inaccurate, considering that many within the Truth movement emphasize the importance of the Constitution and a return to rule by law rather than rule by fear.
You claimed earlier that WeAreChange is liberal, yet you say that Gary is not representative of all liberals. Then you turn around, in a contradictory fashion, and claim that whilst he does not represent all liberals, his apparent actions represent the entirety of the Truth movement. Can you see the contradiction? From bias, you are choosing which group to generalize Gary's actions to.

 

[FaithLikeARock]

Watching that conversation between Ringo and Panzer was amusing. What a nice way to start off the morning.

That said, I can prove that not all liberals are that way. Watch:

I'm liberal.
I've never punched anyone (except like love taps for friends and family which they do as well, but moving on).
I've never punched anyone who DESERVED it.
I would never punch anyone.
And I think violence is never the answer.

Now, let us assume that this is the MAJORITY, because I assure you, if I put up a poll right now, EVERY liberal in this forum would fit this description. That said, basing an entire generalization of the acts of a few is one thing. Basing it off ONE, ANECDOTAL SITUATION is just ridiculous.

You know, all you're doing is justifying those who are anti-Christian to use the anecdotal acts of other Christians (which there are far more of) to call Christianity whatever they need. And since I know you cry to the forums every time you are "persecuted" I would suggest you stop bringing it upon yourself like this and debate in a civilized manner.

 

[FaithLikeARock]

Incredibly massive strawman.
Not all members of the Truth movement yell incoherently and cry oppression and are violent. Many participate in civil disobedience. Many write books, articles, letters and conduct research. Many speak out. Many conduct petitions and ballots calling for an independent inquiry. Even your claim that "Truthers have no respect for much of the law," is highly inaccurate, considering that many within the Truth movement emphasize the importance of the Constitution and a return to rule by law rather than rule by fear.
You claimed earlier that WeAreChange is liberal, yet you say that Gary is not representative of all liberals. Then you turn around, in a contradictory fashion, and claim that whilst he does not represent all liberals, his apparent actions represent the entirety of the Truth movement. Can you see the contradiction? From bias, you are choosing which group to generalize Gary's actions to.

I think he's making a point.

He's making a massive generalization to combat the massive generalization in the OP.

 

[NeTrips]

I have to agree that using this one person to represent all libs is probably not the best case. But if one were to keep in mind the perpetrators of violence at the G8 summits, WTO meetings, etc. Then the generalization is more palatable.....

 

[Ringo84]

I have to agree that using this one person to represent all libs is probably not the best case. But if one were to keep in mind the perpetrators of violence at the G8 summits, WTO meetings, etc. Then the generalization is more palatable.....

None of which apply to me, as I have never incited violence - except on videogames.
Ringo

 

[tulc]

Then the generalization is more palatable.....

...which just makes generalizations more dangerous.
tulc(just a thought)