Must be more of that vaunted liberal tolerance...

[Ringo84]

Prove to me, Voegelin, that this one individual is representative of liberals as a whole.
Ringo

 

[Panzerkamfwagen]

I see, Panzer. One protestor who got out of hand and punched a wheelchair-bound girl on his own volition is now representative of liberals as a whole?

I expect you, Voegelin, and anyone else trying to criticize all liberals for the actions of this one individual to prove to me that he is representative of all liberals. I won't hold my breath.
Ringo

From the manner in which you are becoming defensive, it seems that you are acting as though he represents you.

 

[Ringo84]

From the manner in which you are becoming defensive, it seems that you are acting as though he represents you.

Defensive? Not at all. I think this entire comparison is ludicrous and I'm calling you on it.

Still waiting for you to prove that this is a valid comparison...
Ringo

 

[Panzerkamfwagen]

Defensive? Not at all. I think this entire comparison is ludicrous and I'm calling you on it.

Still waiting for you to prove that this is a valid comparison...
Ringo

Yep.

Defensive.

 

[Ringo84]

"Some random protestor represents ALL liberals".

"I challenge you to prove that"

"You're defensive".

Still waiting for you to prove that the comparison is valid. This is the third time I've had to ask so far......
Ringo

 

[Panzerkamfwagen]

I think it says a lot about liberals here they are more bent out of shape about the title of my thread than about a guy who beats up the handicapped.

 

[Ringo84]

I think it says a lot about liberals here they are more bent out of shape about the title of my thread than about a guy who beats up the handicapped.

The problem is not that the guy beat up a handicapped person. The problem is that this one guy is supposedly representative of all liberals.

That you would make such a ridiculous assertion and then fail to substantiate it says a lot about you, I think.
Ringo

 

[Panzerkamfwagen]

Ah well, I guess that handicapped person had it coming for daring to associate with teh $hrub.

 

[Ringo84]

Ah well, I guess that handicapped person had it coming for daring to associate with teh $hrub.

STILL waiting for you to prove that this one man is representative of all liberals.

It sure seems that such a generalization can't be proven because it isn't true.
Ringo

 

[Panzerkamfwagen]

We know who has been protesting Bush for the last 8 years don't we? Not a lot of suspects here.

Nope.



I think he was a liberal, and from the way liberals seem to be leaping to defend him, I think they think he represents them.

 

[Ringo84]

Nope.



I think he was a liberal, and from the way liberals seem to be leaping to defend him, I think they think he represents them.

You think, but that doesn't amount to proof.

Your inability to substantiate such a generalization shows how invalid it is.
Ringo

 

[Panzerkamfwagen]

Why are liberals more intent on discrediting me than on my message?

Hmm.

 

[Ringo84]

Why are liberals more intent on discrediting me than on my message?

Hmm.

Liberals? I'm one person, Panzer. You discredit yourself when you try to compare one person with ALL liberals and then fail to explain such a comparison.

We're done here.
Ringo

 

[Verv]

Of course this is not all liberals but really, the dangerous passions with which people hate the Bushes are just outrageous. You'd think these guys were flying planes into world trade centers or something.

You know who else protests thing?
Obama.
Does Obama hit people in wheel chairs?
We don't know, and he's not saying.
Choose your America.
tulc(sorry, couldn't resist)

Hahahahhaha....

Obama would never hit anyone.

He might walk on water and cure people with socialized health care, he might tell adulteresses to go forward and sin no more...

But I do not know about hitting anyone.

The guy is going to convince Kim Jung Il to put the nukes down. I can't wait.

After Obama becomes President Hamas and Israel will hold hands and Lions will lay with lambs because, you know, he is a better orator than President Bush.

 

[Ringo84]

Of course this is not all liberals

THANK YOU, Jmverville. That's one of the most honest comments in this entire thread.

the dangerous passions with which people hate the Bushes are just outrageous. You'd think these guys were flying planes into world trade centers or something.

Some people, but I agree with you. I don't like Bush either, but I'm not violent or over-the-top with it.
Ringo

 

[Panzerkamfwagen]

Of course this is not all liberals but really, the dangerous passions with which people hate the Bushes are just outrageous.

And dangerous to the handicapped...

 

[_Zap_]

I see, Panzer. One protestor who got out of hand and punched a wheelchair-bound girl on his own volition is now representative of liberals as a whole?

I expect you, Voegelin, and anyone else trying to criticize all liberals for the actions of this one individual to prove to me that he is representative of all liberals. I won't hold my breath.
Ringo

I don't think he's a representative of all liberals in the slightest. I live in an extremely liberal town, most of my friends are liberal.

I do think he is an excellent example of Bush Derangement Syndrome, though. I also think he's a perfect example of the Truther movement.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

First of all, let's clarify... there is no indication that this man is a "liberal", nor is there any indication that WeAreChange is a liberal organization. In actuality, WeAreChange protests the left/right paradigm. So it is perplexing to assert that an organization which protests the existence of a left/right paradigm would condone being labeled into such a collective as either "liberal" or "conservative."
The man himself, even if he is a "liberal" (whatever you deem that to be) is certainly not representative of all liberals.

In reply to _Zap_'s posts #8, #17 and #37 ... there is little use for ad homs- they do not constitute as any form of evidence. You also use a guilt-by-association fallacy (it too not constituting as evidence) by attempting to associate Gary's apparent behaviour with the behaviour of the Truth Movement. You even claim that this somehow "proves ... the derangement of the truthers." How? It is a logical fallacy.
At the same time, you claim that WeAreChange is a liberal organization and yet you claim that Gary's apparent behaviour is not representative of all liberals, but somehow, it is representative of the Truth movement. Amazing. You can choose what Gary's behaviour is representative of.

 

[Kutte]

After all these years are we still in a state of anti liberal paranoia?

What does "liberal" stand for anyway?

"Liberal" according to Webster's NewWorld Dictionary:
Not literal or strict; tolerant; broad minded; favoring reform or progress; generous.

"Conservative":
Tending to conserve, (as in tasteless conserved vegetables); opposed to change; cautious; tending to conserve established institutions.

Kutte

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[Yusuf Evans]

After all these years are we still in a state of anti liberal paranoia?

What does "liberal" stand for anyway?

"Liberal" according to Webster's NewWorld Dictionary:
Not literal or strict; tolerant; broad minded; favoring reform or progress; generous.

"Conservative":
Tending to conserve, (as in tasteless conserved vegetables); opposed to change; cautious; tending to conserve established institutions.

Kutte

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All this depends on where you're liberal at, either economically, socially or both.