Musk's Government Slashing Took Place When He Was Under the Influence of Ketamine, Ecstasy, Adderall, and More

[iluvatar5150]

When I looked it up March 2nd, his net worth was 359 billion (posted here). It's now 429 billion. At that rate he will have achieved half a trillion dollars by or before the end of this year. That doesn't objectively, logically or realistically add up to drugged out business failure.

The logic is a lot easier to work out when you actually read what was written instead of continually attacking strawmen.

 

[ozso]

To be at least somewhat fair to the man, more than a few people who inherited wealth squandered it or lost it on a bad call.

Musk was making the right calls at the right time during the tech boom and had the money to do so. I don't know how much of that can be attributed to insight and how much to luck.

But none of that has anything to do with him consuming or not consuming drugs in the present.

Tons of people inherit wealth. How many go on to become the wealthiest person in the world twice over? Just how much money did he inherit? I'd like to see what percentage of $429,000,000,000 is was.

 

[ozso]

The logic is a lot easier to work out when you actually read what was written instead of continually attacking strawmen.

What was written is incidental to achieving being the wealthiest businessman in the world twice over. "The most successful businessman is a business failure" is a complete non sequitur. It's like saying the person with the highest IQ in the world is intellectually disabled. Makes no sense whatsoever.

 

[iluvatar5150]

To be at least somewhat fair to the man, more than a few people who inherited wealth squandered it or lost it on a bad call.

Musk was making the right calls at the right time during the tech boom and had the money to do so. I don't know how much of that can be attributed to insight and how much to luck.

But none of that has anything to do with him consuming or not consuming drugs in the present.

Every success is built on both insight and luck.

There were a lot of people trying to do stuff during the tech boom. Few had anything remotely as visionary as Tesla and SpaceX. I know he didn’t found Tesla, but he did grow it from a small project company into something legitimately world-changing.

 

[iluvatar5150]

What was written is incidental to achieving being the wealthiest businessman in the world twice over. "The most successful businessman is a business failure" is a complete non sequitur. It's like saying the person with the highest IQ in the world is intellectually disabled. Makes no sense whatsoever.

Nobody in this thread has said he’s a business failure. That’s a strawman that you invented.

 

[ozso]

Nobody in this thread has said he’s a business failure. That’s a strawman that you invented.

Oh, what are they saying exactly?

 

[wing2000]

Oh, what are they saying exactly?

Elon Musk Has Been “Using Drugs Far More Intensely Than Previously Known”: Report

A new report from The New York Times details Musk's alleged use of ketamine and other drugs.

www.yahoo.com

The buck should stop with the president, who gave him sweeping powers with no accountability. (I guess he didn't become a federal employee because he couldn't pass the drug tests.) If only we could undo all the damage he's done before 2029.

You're welcome.

 

[iluvatar5150]

Oh, what are they saying exactly?

Go reread them if you’re unclear. If you have questions about specific posts, quote them and ask those questions.

 

[ozso]

You're welcome.

Nobody in this thread has said he’s a business failure. That’s a strawman that you invented.

Oh, what are they saying exactly?

Try again.

 

[ozso]

Go reread them if you’re unclear. If you have questions about specific posts, quote them and ask those questions.

I'm going to have to take that as you made a claim you can't back up in your own words.

 

[wing2000]

....watch Elon gush over Trump's golden oval office.... (every vistor to the office is obviously told to complement Trump on his golden decor)

@16:34

President Trump & Elon Musk Speak to Reporters

President Trump and Elon Musk spoke to reporters from the Oval Office on Mr. Musk's last day at the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE). Mr. Musk said he expected DOGE's cost-cutting work to continue despite his personal exit from the bureaucracy, as he returned to focus on Tesla, SpaceX...

www.c-span.org

 

[Desk trauma]

What was written is incidental to achieving being the wealthiest businessman in the world twice over.

He’s the wealthiest man because of the comical overvaluation of Tesla stock.

 

[SimplyMe]

Sorry but I don't see how that and supposedly being a druggie objectively adds up to someone being the most successful businessman on earth twice over.

Let's try this a different way. Yes, Musk had a lot of success early but his last few years have been rough on him, which corresponds to the time period that he had allegedly increased his drug use. SpaceX has largely continued to do well, though they are having issues with Starship. Tesla is having a very rough time, with sales down around most of the world (such as Europe where Tesla market share has dropped to half of what it was last year). At the same time, despite Teslas issues, the stock has still doubled in price over the last year, even if down from six months ago. As such, even if Musk hadn't done anything in the last year, his net worth (based on SpaceX and Tesla stock) would still be substantially higher -- particularly as it appears he is getting new federal contracts from the Trump administration.

But the fact Musk is going through a tough patch, where the Cybertruck (which is allegedly his pet project that he heavily influenced) has flopped, is a reason a "successful" man would have a drug problem. The issue, from what I can see with Musk, as things have gone downhill, Musk has become more "frantic" in trying to solve issues with his companies. Worse, on top of that, he was doing his DOGE work as well.

The claim is that Musk has always used drugs to help him when he really needed it but, prior to the "crisis" of the last couple of years, used them sparingly -- using them only when he needed an extra push for a day or two to push a project back on track. What is claimed no is, given the "crisis," Elon has been using drugs constantly because he's had so much to do and felt under so much pressure to get things done. Musk does seem to be one of those people who believes he has to fix things, that he is the only one capable of ensuring everything get accomplished. So, since his body only naturally can work so much per week, Musk has used drugs to push his body and mind beyond what it can normally do, so he can work three days straight without any real sleep. But, because of the major issues, it wasn't just one three day period he needed it (like in previous times) but that he constantly needed to put in those longer hours over weeks and months -- particularly when he started working DOGE on top of trying to ensure that the issues with Starship kept getting improved and that the Tesla Taxi (particularly the self driving) could be launched.

This is exactly the type of situation where someone highly successful (not to mention extremely competitive) can have major drug issues, in the attempt to keep their success (and winning) going.

 

[Nithavela]

Every success is built on both insight and luck.

There were a lot of people trying to do stuff during the tech boom. Few had anything remotely as visionary as Tesla and SpaceX. I know he didn’t found Tesla, but he did grow it from a small project company into something legitimately world-changing.

He did have some whoppers, though. Like the "Boring Company", where he tried (and failed) to reinvent the subway.

 

[Nithavela]

Tons of people inherit wealth. How many go on to become the wealthiest person in the world twice over? Just how much money did he inherit? I'd like to see what percentage of $429,000,000,000 is was.

Still has nothing to do with his drug habit.

 

[iluvatar5150]

I'm going to have to take that as you made a claim you can't back up in your own words.

Take whatever you want. I can’t correct your failures at reading comprehension.

 

[ozso]

Take whatever you want. I can’t correct your failures at reading comprehension.

I didn't have any problem comprehending what you claimed. But I'm still waiting for you to answer a simple question. instead of obfuscation, accusations and insults.

 

[ozso]

Still has nothing to do with his drug habit.

His continuing astronomical success at business indicates he doesn't really have a drug habit.

 

[iluvatar5150]

I didn't have any problem comprehending what you claimed.

Your glossing over the more important parts of what I’ve written suggests otherwise.

But I'm still waiting for you to answer a simple question. instead of obfuscation, accusations and insults.

You’re going to keep waiting, because I’m not going to hold your hand and explain all of the other posters’ comments to you. If there are any that you think disprove my claim that nobody is calling him a business failure, feel free to point them out.

 

[Desk trauma]

His continuing astronomical success at business indicates he doesn't really have a drug habit.

Much like Hughes success indicated he really didn’t have any mental health issues.