Originally posted by cougan
Well at least you are staying consistant with your arguement. Either you just dont want to see the truth are you are truely wrapped up in your theolgy. You are saying here that if someone is led by the Spirit to do something than its ok.
If they are TRULY led by the Spirit, then it is, indeed okay. If it is what God the Spirit wants, then I am not going to disagree!
Do you believe that someone can worship God in away that is different than what the word of God says they can worship as long as the spirit led them? How does the spirit lead them? Does the HS talk to you or is it some sort of thoght that pops into your head and you say the HS is telling me to do this?
Oh, he speaks. This may be hard from someone who does not believe that HOly Spirit indwells the believer. The Holy Spirit is a still small voice that - it's hard to approximate - "whispers," for lack of a better word. He speaks to me in prayer, he speaks to me in worship, and he directs me often in which way to go.
Now wait a min what is your justification for limiting ROsary beads.?
The limitation was based upon their role in the Catholic Church. They are a prayer aid - not a worship aid as instructed by the Church.
The bible does not say that you CAN'T use them. Why do they have to use something similiar? You ONLY want to allow those things you accept by the silence of scriptures but you draw you own lines here and destroy your own arguement.
You were too quick to jump to that conclusion.
There is not to the best of memory of any examples of someone dancing in worship under the new convenant. Not only is dancing and the other things here not authorized dont you think that dancing would violate the following scripture.
David danced before the Lord. Since worship is never re-defined in the NT from the OT (the passages referring to worship never specifically redefine it), we must assume that the most Sovereign Lord wishes us to worship to Him likewise.
Corinthians 14:40 Let all things be done decently and in order.
You're misapplying this text. It's specificalyl referring to the speaking and interpretation of tongues. Dancing is not mentioned or implied.
Someone jumping up and dancing down the ailes sure doesnt fall under decently and in order.
Dancing doesn't even fall under the umbrella of the Scripture you posted. Paul is talking about tongues. Read the chapter to see.
I also find strange that the apostles tells us to follow their example yet they did not use musical instruments to worship with.
No, they do not specifally state that they did or did not use musical isntruments. That's very different than what you wrote.
How convenient!
It's your Scripture to deal with, since I, and the majority of scholars, believe that the last part of Mark 16 was not authentic to the original manuscript.
Jesus institued the LS with the fruit of the vine representing his blood and the new convenant. The unleavend bread represents his body and we are to partake of it until he comes because it also proclaims his death. This is quite sad Scott that you are willing to say that the fruit of the vine and the unlevend bread can be replaced using meat and potatoes. I will take Jesus at his word and use the fruit of the vine and the unleaven bread. To do other wize is to say well Jesus I know you used the fruit of the vine and unleaven bread but hey you didnt say I COULDNT use water frence fries so I am going to do my OWN thing. This is illogical and cant belive you would hold to such interpations.
No. We use the bread and the wine. I was saying that meat and potatoes can be eaten as part of the supper - the bread and the wine are the part that specificalyl commemorates the death of Christ. Chill.
You did'nt answer the question here or above.
Oh, I anwered them. Not how you would have liked, I imagine - but I did answer them.
Im sorry but you 1st statement still hasnt changed its meaning. I wonder if one of the other poster on here would read you 1st statement and see if they come to a different conclusion.
I said that if the Bible is silent concerning an issue, then we cannot give a blanket condemnation.
This was my original statement. I imagine that the other posters would come to the same conclusion I did. God gave us sense for a reason. (Hence, the adjective "blanket.")
Again please re-read my post on what is "aid" and what is a "addition"
I have. Why can musical instruments not be an "aid?" You cannot (or have not yet) really answered that.
You didnt answer the question. Maybe you did'nt understand the question. Must worship be offered to God as AUTHORIZED by the bible/word of God?
Worship must be authorized by the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit will not lead a man to do something outside of the Word, but the authorization is given by God himself.
If you are implying from you above statement that one can led by God in addition to the word than you are adding to the word of God. You need to start writting your revelation you can call it the book fo Scott "what God wants us to do in worship today".
You need to understand what "adding to the word of God means." I'm not writing a text. Just because a person receives a revelation does not mean they are writing a new text.
Now make up your mind Scott because you yourself stated that if the HS led you to do it then its ok. You just cant seem to make up your mind.
Again, if the Holy Spirit truly instructs a person to do it, it will NOT go against Biblical truths. You want the crux of my argument - that is it.
Once again you did'nt answer the questions. I did not ask you to list what you feel not to be a restiction but what you do see as a restriction and why.
The Holy Spirit must authorize and lead a person to worship. If the Holy Spirit does not do it, then it is not authentic worship. How's that for a restriction?
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