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Multiverse Theory and multiple Ezekiel 37 type events.

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Time is not a real dimension in physics; it is a consequence of the curvature of spacial dimensions (which are real.) That it is called "space-time" is to keep note that the time, as it is known, is a consequence of the curvature of space itself.

Time as it is colloquially known in counting time is arbitrary. The "time" in space-time is a consequence of the line element. It is coupled to space and does not exist on its own.
 
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In physics, spacetime is any mathematical modelthat fuses the three dimensions of space and the one dimension of time into a single four-dimensional continuum.

Time is not a real dimension in physics;

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The "time" in space-time is a consequence of the line element. It is coupled to space and does not exist on its own.


Time, t, mathematically coupled to space (space-time) is an operator and/or parameter; time alone is arbitrary.
 
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I don't think that word means what you think it means: dimension.

I know very well what a mathematical dimension is - which is why time is not an actual spacial dimension. It is, for convenience of its transformations in SR, considered a "dimension" but certainly not the ones that mathematically matter (spacial dimension.) It is, instead, coupled to a real "spacial" dimension(s) in field theory, and alone it is arbitrary.

There are vectors that act like time, but time itself is not mathematically special - and is less about time, and more about a coupling of space (with respect to the metric,) and the action. In fact, this coupling can be seen when we try to transform time, and in the fact that the change in time with respect to reference frames, not time itself, is taken as a dimension. Spaces can stand alone without time, but time is coupled to spacial dimensions.


Dimensions are specific entities in mathematics. They have mappings that allow us to define the space, the kernel and a basis.
 
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Time, t, mathematically coupled to space (space-time) is an operator and/or parameter; time alone is arbitrary.
Sorry, Kaon, but repeating irrelevance about Time or spacetime does not make it correct.
This is a dimension. This an operator (mathematics) or operator (physics).

Time is a dimension. It is not a spatial dimension because time is not space .
Time is not treated as "mathematically special".

26 April 2018 Kaon: Cite your sources for "coupling of space (with respect to the metric,) and the action"
26 April 2018 Kaon: Cite your sources for "coupled to a real "spacial" dimension(s) in field theory".
 
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Well, since I am repeating nonsense, there is no sense in me continuing a conversation with you, is there?

Enjoy your evening.
 
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Well, since I am repeating nonsense, there is no sense in me continuing a conversation with you, is there?.
There is sense in trying to educate you as in the previous posts.

I will record this nonsense about time in case you repeat it again elsewhere.
26 April 2018 Kaon: Unsupported "nonsense" about time being not a dimension/an operator/arbitrary when time is a dimension, is not an operator and is specific.

Support turning this from nonsense to sense would be answers to questions
26 April 2018 Kaon: Cite your sources for "coupling of space (with respect to the metric,) and the action"
26 April 2018 Kaon: Cite your sources for "coupled to a real "spacial" dimension(s) in field theory".

Or Kaon could acknowledge the definition of time as a dimension and his mistake.
 
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Excellent.
 
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I know very well what a mathematical dimension is - which is why time is not an actual spacial dimension.
Nobody said it was a spatial dimension. Coupled or not, it is a temporal dimension.

You said, "Time is not a real dimension in physics..." and that is plain wrong; it is just as 'real' a dimension as any other - and, in extreme circumstances, can rotate to become a space-like dimension.
 
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Ok.
 
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Rabbi Pinchas TAylor did what I personally thought was a brilliant explanation of the first five dimensions.... I will try to find the link to the video........

Yes.. .it is around the 37 minute mark in this video. He sounds accurate to me..... am I incorrect to think that?
 
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Yes.

4th dimension is the beginning of "simultenaity" of time described by him - which is space-time. It is the curvature of 3-D space to make up a 4th spacial dimension that is coupled with time.

The 5th dimension: is a glome of that glome - where you see 4D at every orthogonal point in the 5th dimension.


Time is for our convenience; it measures changes in action. It is a constraint we put on lower spacial dimension for our sake (our dimension we think we operate in) - so that we do not experience everything at once. (As per the Most High God, everything that will happen has already happened.) The rabii is also right in that there is only "one time line/lifeline," even if there are ways to "see the future or past, and 'interact' with it." For example, a "traveller" from 2087 who dies in 2018 would have always died in 2018, despite being born in, say, 2060. That is his/her unique life line - what I would call it.


When 24, 11, or 10 dimensions are predicted to exist by theory, these are spacial dimensions with time coupled to the spaces. The math that predicts these dimensions treat time as a parameter necessary for evolving a basis of dimensions. The basis set depends on the theory used. But, time itself does not exist.
 
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If you were to Google, "Near Death Experience Rabbi Alon Anava" you can listen to him explain how......... during his NDE...... while his body was in a taxi going under one bridge in New York.........(maybe ten to thirty seconds at most)...... his consciousness in an out of the body state......was able to interact with HUNDREDS of individuals in an apartment building. (I assume that eventually we will see how this all fits with II Corinthians 12:2-4)

... .and in no way contradicts these simple ideas on String Theory that were written back in the 1990's:



"I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth, such an one caught up to the third heaven.
And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth; How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter."

Like many other near death experiencers........ if Paul was talking about himself I believe that he was beginning to discuss some of those "unlawful ideas" by Romans chapter 9 - 11... which I believe was a number of years after he wrote I Corinthians.

How many years probably went by between the writing of II Corinthians to Romans?
 
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Now my idea is that G-d is actually more powerful than that..... and is capable of initiating multiple time lines..... and the one that we are in at this instant...... is new..... and has never happened before...... and is being determined by our decisions.............. and significantly by the thoughts and prayers of people who do pray...............

I believe that time is an invention.... comparable in some ways to a bicycle, or car, or ship or jet...... it was designed to take souls...... both angels as well as humans........ from point A to point B. ... spiritually , mentally and emotionally...........

Here is an example of a scripture that indicates that time was invented.........

Mark 2:27

"And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:"

I have read what may be anecdotal evidence that indicates non-linear time...... applied Multiverse theory..........

... and this evidence that many, many time lines that include 2018 may already have taken place...... but I am certain that what is being done now is new............ and obviously far, far, far, far better than what Dannion Brinkley was shown back in 1975......



Revelation 13:17

And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name."

So basically..... in 1975... Dannion was shown a pretty scary future series of events.... that do overlap our time line somewhat... .but differ significantly and the "mark of the beast" that he was shown has been delayed and delayed and delayed..... in our immeditate time line/ example of applied Multiverse Theory...... example of Ezekiel 37......... because all of us in a sense have been resurrected / replicated in this new time line... if that is what Dannion's vision of the future was really all about......
 
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Do we have corroboration of this from those individuals?
 
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Do we have corroboration of this from those individuals?

Do a search and see..... . I don't think you will find it boring. The video is over an hour long but truly fascinating.
 
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Do a search and see..... . I don't think you will find it boring. The video is over an hour long but truly fascinating.
Frankly, I'd rather you just gave me the answer - or give a link to the video and point me to the time in the video where those individuals corroborate the story.
 
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Frankly, I'd rather you just gave me the answer - or give a link to the video and point me to the time in the video where those individuals corroborate the story.

It is between the sixteen minutes..... to twenty two minute mark.... most relevant part starts at eighteen minutes.....

 
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