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No need to apologize, I haven't been offended in any way by your remarks. As for your claim that I'm mocking your posts, I'm sorry if my line of questioning came across in such a way, that was never my intention. I was only seeking clarity as your replies in this thread appear to be inconsistent.I apologize, but I can see you are offended by my remarks. This comes out in your mocking of my posts. That is fine you can mock them, but I in turn do not need to reply to them. If you wish to have a change of heart and start to debate nicely, then of course I will address all of your concerns. Take care and thank you for the debate.
Let's continue shall we? I will re-post the questions I asked in my previous reply below to save you the trouble of having to reread the entire post.
You made the claim that you have never said Allah means moon god, but it appears that you have in the past.
Muhammed picked out of all the nomadic dieties of mecca a moon God to worship. And It is that moon God that is what is called God in islam.
And in this thread you have posted the following:Allah is not another term for God, but is the god of the Islamic people...
Allah is the god Muhammad chose out of over 200 plus pagan deities that were worshiped by the desert-nomadic people (-Arabs) there in A.D.620. When Muhammad was attempting to take control of the power base there in the Middle East He chose for His god, one of the many gods that were served or acknowledged there by the desert people in the Arabian peninsula. This happened to be Allah the moon god. He said then that this is Allah the only valid god.
from muhammeds own biographer we know that muhammed worshipped the moon god and that is why they have the crescent on everything.
Allah’s symbol was the crescent moon, which Muhammad also carried over into Islam. This symbol is still seen on mosques, minarets, shrines, and Arab flags. When he conquered Mecca...Muhammad smashed the idols in the Ka’aba, including Allah,
How can what you are saying in the examples be taken any other way than Allah is a "moon god", or means, "moon god"?allah was a moon god, one of hundreds of desert nomadic dieties in mecca.
How does this change the fact that Allah is the standard Arabic word for God used by Arabic-speaking Christians, Jews, and Muslims. Are you saying that God doesn't "endorse" Bibles that are translated into other languages or that He doesn't accept when people call Him by a name that is familiar to them in their native tongue?again arabic was originally a pagan language. One can say the same for greek, but greek at least was endorsed by God to be used in the majority of the new testament, arabic was not chosen by God to do so. Less than 5% of the Bible is arabic.
Your source mentions Ibn Ishaq in his article, but Ibn Ishaq never said that "Muhammed chose for his particular allah one of the many desert nomadic deities currently worshipped in mecca when he conquered it by brute force." Do you really believe that Ibn Ishaq, a Muslim historian, would make such an outlandish claim?
Does the source you sent me to have a background in Islamic Studies, Islamic History, or linguistics? If so, can you provide some evidence of this?
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