Mr. Biden, we already have that.

[pescador]

So a poor white kid is less deserving than a poor black child? It's not going to be fixed with that attitude.

It's not going to be fixed until race is no longer a factor. Poor white kids (and teens and adults) aren't discriminated against because of their skin color.

 

[grasping the after wind]

No, we really don't. To believe that an African-American or Latino kid from the inner-city who was raised by a single-mother who has a drug addiction and can't keep a job has the same opportunity as a white kid from Nebraska who is raised in a loving 2-parent home with a household income above $100,000 is pure delusion.

There's a great video of a camp counselor and a group of diverse kids that talks about this. He starts the kids out all lined up evenly and tells them they are going to race. Before they begin, though, he asks them questions such as "whoever has parents that are still together take a step forward." After asking about 10 questions like this there are some kids who are literally steps from the finish line and there are quite a few who are still standing on the starting line. Curiously the majority of the kids with the head start are white and the majority of the kids back at the starting line are not. All the kids are in the same race, but it is just delusional to say that all of them have the same opportunity to win.

I've seen that video and what I got out of it is that if one and one's family acts responsibly, one has a better chance to get a head start in that game. . Based upon the questions asked one would have to conclude that the racial background of the kids really was not the deciding factor but rather the behavior of their parents was what was the biggest obstacle to success in the game the counselor concocted. I suspect the counselor was trying to make the case that the racial component was what made the difference but the game failed to show that . The counselor could not find a way to make the point he was trying to make using racial identity and ended up actually contradicting his preconceived conclusion by using behaviors as ways to get a head start. Behaviors that are not racial characteristics or controlled by anyone other than the people doing the behaving.

 

[98cwitr]

Can you flesh this out more? Who?

It's all part of progressive agenda: equity movements social at DuckDuckGo

BUT, our Governor likes using the term, in addition to those in education (higher and primary), and even higher up, like Bernie: Commitment to Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion | Bernie Sanders Official Website

Beware any use of the word "equity," it means we are more and more becoming unequal under the law based on immutable characteristics.

 

[Arc F1]

It's not going to be fixed until race is no longer a factor. Poor white kids (and teens and adults) aren't discriminated against because of their skin color.

Race will never stop being a factor unless people stop using it as an excuse. Do you know what every racist has in common? They all are looking for someone to blame other than themselves.

 

[Kentonio]

So we help all poor kids. What's wrong with that?

Nothing at all, its what the Democrats keep saying they want to do. Not sure why racial equality being part of the overall fix suddenly becomes a bad thing.

 

[Kentonio]

Race will never stop being a factor unless people stop using it as an excuse. Do you know what every racist has in common? They all are looking for someone to blame other than themselves.

That must be nice advice for the black guy who gets stopped 20 times a year in his nice car by the cops, or the woman who never gets offered interviews due to her 'black sounding' name.

 

[Aldebaran]

From Joe Biden's official campaign website.

"I’ve always believed we can define America in one word: Possibilities.

That in America everyone should be given the opportunity to go as far as their dreams and God-given ability will take them."

We already have this. No need to reinvent the wheel.

That's a surprising statement from the same guy who said in regards to the vaccine coming out in record time like a miracle: "No miracle is coming!"

 

[Aldebaran]

That must be nice advice for the black guy who gets stopped 20 times a year in his nice car by the cops, or the woman who never gets offered interviews due to her 'black sounding' name.

Nice hypothetical. But it's just a hypothetical argument with no evidence.

 

[Aldebaran]

Nothing at all, its what the Democrats keep saying they want to do. Not sure why racial equality being part of the overall fix suddenly becomes a bad thing.

Because "racial equality" isn't what it's about. That's just a cover for implementing radical left agendas while trying to convince people it's a good thing.

 

[Kentonio]

Nice hypothetical. But it's just a hypothetical argument with no evidence.

"We study race in the labor market by sending fictitious resumes to help-wanted adsin Boston and Chicago newspapers. To manipulate perceived race, resumes arerandomly assigned African-American- or White-sounding names. White namesreceive 50 percent more callbacks for interviews"
Study of 100 million police stops finds black motorists are more likely to be pulled over - CNN

"A study of nearly 100 million traffic stops from around the country has concluded that, on average, black drivers are 20% more likely to get pulled over than white drivers."
https://cos.gatech.edu/facultyres/Diversity_Studies/Bertrand_LakishaJamal.pdf

"OAKLAND, Calif. (KGO) -- The ABC7 I-Team analyzed traffic stop data compiled by the Oakland Police Department and found racial disparities have slightly improved between 2015 and 2018.
However, according to our analysis, Black men were eight times more likely to be stopped by police than White men and three times more likely to be stopped than Hispanic men during that time period."
Black men are 8 times more likely to be stopped by Oakland police than White men, data shows

 

[SilverBear]

Beware any use of the word "equity," it means we are more and more becoming unequal under the law based on immutable characteristics.

How?

 

[gaara4158]

I've seen that video and what I got out of it is that if one and one's family acts responsibly, one has a better chance to get a head start in that game. . Based upon the questions asked one would have to conclude that the racial background of the kids really was not the deciding factor but rather the behavior of their parents was what was the biggest obstacle to success in the game the counselor concocted. I suspect the counselor was trying to make the case that the racial component was what made the difference but the game failed to show that . The counselor could not find a way to make the point he was trying to make using racial identity and ended up actually contradicting his preconceived conclusion by using behaviors as ways to get a head start. Behaviors that are not racial characteristics or controlled by anyone other than the people doing the behaving.

If you recognize that black and Hispanic people are disproportionately poor and uneducated compared to white people, do you think it’s just a coincidence, or is there an explanation for this difference? If you say it’s their culture, what creates a culture where education and higher employment are de-prioritized? If you say it’s bad public policy, you’ve identified a form of systemic racism, so we agree and can now begin discussing what steps to take to improve public policy. If you say it’s intrinsic to their kind, that’s you being racist.

It’s true that blaming others for your problems won’t make them go away. But that’s not helpful advice to someone who’s already working hard and still struggling against these problems. Suggesting that we as a society ought to leave them to their own devices when you know they’re facing obstacles you’re not, which they didn’t create for themselves, is beyond callous and disdainful. It’s inhumane. We’re only as great as the least among us.

 

[Triumvirate]

opportunity speaks of equality, outcomes speak of equity. You cannot have equity without systemic inequality. Watch the language carefully. Those in power use equity now.

Not surprised you're scared

 

[Triumvirate]

And do so voluntarily, and not under compulsion: 2 Cor 9:7

If Juan's single mother cares more about his education and ensures that he prioritizes success over deliquency than Billy's father, I suspect Juan has a better chance at real success than Billy. Money doesn't have the same impact as the love of a caring and nurturing parent. Just ask Oprah.

That said, life isn't fair. Humans trying to force it to be fair simply creates more unfairness. You don't punish those who do right and reward those who do wrong; but that's what "equity" is all about.

When we leave it up to your standards, people do not choose fairness. We've done it your way. Time for you lot to sit down.

 

[MIDutch]

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[Triumvirate]

And he was right.

If it were a miracle it wouldn't have taken almost all of 2020 to something that MAY be effective.

Instead it'd be like "poof" and all of a sudden the perfect vaccine would be in pharmacies all around the world a few days after the first reports of people getting COVID-19, or it'd be like "poof" all of a sudden the pandemic is just simply gone like trump said would happen.

Instead, thousands of scientists, researchers and medical professionals ALL AROUND THE WORLD worked VERY hard for over 10 months to come up with some promising options that may work as a vaccine that could maybe be ready sometime next year for the general public.

In other words, SCIENCE ... not magic.

Amazing how quickly the populist idiots seem to have started trusting in expertise again.

Well, those that haven't gone totally Qrazy anyway.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

If you recognize that black and Hispanic people are disproportionately poor and uneducated compared to white people, do you think it’s just a coincidence, or is there an explanation for this difference? If you say it’s their culture, what creates a culture where education and higher employment are de-prioritized? If you say it’s bad public policy, you’ve identified a form of systemic racism, so we agree and can now begin discussing what steps to take to improve public policy. If you say it’s intrinsic to their kind, that’s you being racist.

It’s true that blaming others for your problems won’t make them go away. But that’s not helpful advice to someone who’s already working hard and still struggling against these problems. Suggesting that we as a society ought to leave them to their own devices when you know they’re facing obstacles you’re not, which they didn’t create for themselves, is beyond callous and disdainful. It’s inhumane. We’re only as great as the least among us.

Racism accounts for but a small part of minority's problems. A study of their culture will reveal this to anyone courageous enough to do some honest study of the subject.

As to why we are so far ahead (or they so far behind) we have been developing our culture and society along different lines than they for thousands of years.

 

[Sparagmos]

It's all part of progressive agenda: equity movements social at DuckDuckGo

BUT, our Governor likes using the term, in addition to those in education (higher and primary), and even higher up, like Bernie: Commitment to Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion | Bernie Sanders Official Website

Beware any use of the word "equity," it means we are more and more becoming unequal under the law based on immutable characteristics.

I’m aware of talk from some on the left about equity, but it’s not at all common among people in power.

 

[Pommer]

A study of their culture will reveal this to anyone courageous enough to do some honest study of the subject.

Do go on...

 

[gaara4158]

Racism accounts for but a small part of minority's problems. A study of their culture will reveal this to anyone courageous enough to do some honest study of the subject.

As to why we are so far ahead (or they so far behind) we have been developing our culture and society along different lines than they for thousands of years.

So, what accounts for the difference in culture you believe is responsible for this difference in material conditions?