[MOVED] What happens when a non-NASA astronaut is asked about the shape of the earth?

[Brightmoon]

These things are straight and if they were at different heights they’d damage the wires. The earth is not flat!

 

[d taylor]

As the sun approaches the limit of our vision it appears to go past the horizon.

When a person sits down and draws telephone poles that would be on a straight road as they get farther away they appear to go to the horizon

 

[d taylor]

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These things are straight and if they were at different heights they’d damage the wires. The earth is not flat!

So according to that picture the curve can be seen at about a mile. wonder why i do not see that on the roads near me

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

The joint best comic with XKCD...

 

[Lost4words]

Couple of my relatives were sent to space but they not returned so i cant ask them what they saw.

 

[sjastro]

The joint best comic with XKCD...

The Mobius Earth theory is not quite right.
The Earth is in fact a Klein Bottle Earth by gluing two Mobius Earths together.
Introducing the Klein bottle

This is our Klein Bottle Earth.

 

[Strathos]

As the sun approaches the limit of our vision it appears to go past the horizon.

How does that work, exactly?

If you move away from something in a straight line, it appears to shrink until it is too small to see. It doesn't stay the same relative size and go under an illusory horizon.

 

[d taylor]

How does that work, exactly?

If you move away from something in a straight line, it appears to shrink until it is too small to see. It doesn't stay the same relative size and go under an illusory horizon.

The atmosphere magnifies the sun, being that the sun is in raqi and not in a made up outer space 93 million miles away

 

[Lost4words]

The atmosphere magnifies the sun, being that the sun is in raqi and not in a made up outer space 93 million miles away

Baloney springs to mind

 

[renniks]

The atmosphere magnifies the sun, being that the sun is in raqi and not in a made up outer space 93 million miles away

The sun is in an Islamic spiritual leader?

 

[d taylor]

Baloney springs to mind

Then God made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night. He made the stars also. God set them in the raqia of the heavens to give light on the earth,

 

[renniks]

Where are the heavens? Are they above the dome? I honestly don't get it.

Then God made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night. He made the stars also. God set them in the raqia of the heavens to give light on the earth,

 

[d taylor]

Where are the heavens? Are they above the dome? I honestly don't get it.

One heaven the first one, separates bodies of waters. One body of water below the first heaven and another body of water above the first heaven.

The first heaven is called the raqia, (sky, expanse, firmament). This is the location of the sun, moon and stars.

Then God said, “Let there be a raqia in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.”
Thus God made the raqia, and divided the waters which were under the raqia from the waters which were above the raqia; and it was so.
And God called the raqia Heaven. So the evening and the morning were the second day.

The raqia is also where birds fly Genesis 1:20

The Bible does not speak of the second heaven but going by order, it is above the raqia and the waters above the raqia.

The Bible speaks of a third heaven the place where Paul was taken. That also could be the abode of God or God could be above the third heaven.

 

[renniks]

One heaven the first one, separates bodies of waters. One body of water below the first heaven and another body of water above the first heaven.

The first heaven is called the raqia, (sky, expanse, firmament). This is the location of the sun, moon and stars.

Then God said, “Let there be a raqia in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.”
Thus God made the raqia, and divided the waters which were under the raqia from the waters which were above the raqia; and it was so.
And God called the raqia Heaven. So the evening and the morning were the second day.

The raqia is also where birds fly Genesis 1:20

The Bible does not speak of the second heaven but going by order, it is above the raqia and the waters above the raqia.

The Bible speaks of a third heaven the place where Paul was taken. That also could be the abode of God or God could be above the third heaven.

So is your firmament solid? How can birds fly in a solid dome?
What does the Hebrew word actually mean? The Hebrew noun raqia is derived from the verb raqa, which means “to spread abroad, stamp, or stretch.
Many other verses, such as Psalm 104:2 and Isaiah 40:22, speak of the stretching out of the heavens. The Hebrew word used in these verses for heaven is not raqiya, but shamayim (literally “heavens”). However, in Genesis 1:8 God explicitly calls the expanse “heaven,” thus equating raqiya with shamayim. If the stretched out nature of the raqiya is what is intended, then firmament may not be the best translation; expanse is more accurate.

 

[d taylor]

So is your firmament solid? How can birds fly in a solid dome?
What does the Hebrew word actually mean? The Hebrew noun raqia is derived from the verb raqa, which means “to spread abroad, stamp, or stretch.
Many other verses, such as Psalm 104:2 and Isaiah 40:22, speak of the stretching out of the heavens. The Hebrew word used in these verses for heaven is not raqiya, but shamayim (literally “heavens”). However, in Genesis 1:8 God explicitly calls the expanse “heaven,” thus equating raqiya with shamayim. If the stretched out nature of the raqiya is what is intended, then firmament may not be the best translation; expanse is more accurate.

No the raqia (firmament) is an open space. The space from the ground up to the waters above

 

[Strathos]

The atmosphere magnifies the sun, being that the sun is in raqi and not in a made up outer space 93 million miles away

You have any mathematical models for this magnification effect that somehow makes it appear to set below the horizon?

 

[JackRT]

Refraction at sunup and sundown.

https://www.hko.gov.hk/m/article_e.htm?title=ele_00493

 

[Brightmoon]

As the sun approaches the limit of our vision it appears to go past the horizon.

When a person sits down and draws telephone poles that would be on a straight road as they get farther away they appear to go to the horizon

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you’ve got a short distance on a road . That won’t go over the horizon . And there’s a hill and a dip in that road. It’s not flat to the surface

 

[d taylor]

You have any mathematical models for this magnification effect that somehow makes it appear to set below the horizon?

Why is that needed

 

[d taylor]

you’ve got a short distance on a road . That won’t go over the horizon . And there’s a hill and a dip in that road. It’s not flat to the surface

So you are saying that the earth is not flat because there are roads like this.