{MOVED} Some evangelicals fear the 'mark of the beast' from a coronavirus vaccine

[Johnboy60]

Peggy Popham gets her flu shot every year, despite her daughter Laura’s opposition to vaccines.

“I’m 70 and I’ve gotten sick before,” said Popham. “I don’t have a great immune system.”

Some evangelicals fear the 'mark of the beast' from a coronavirus vaccine

 

[Sketcher]

Such fears are not consistent with Scripture. Unfortunately, I think a significant percentage of these people do not care.

 

[High Fidelity]

Idiots like David Icke peddle this nonsense.

The anti-vax movement is one of the greatest health issues we face and will continue to face until something changes.

 

[dqhall]

Peggy Popham gets her flu shot every year, despite her daughter Laura’s opposition to vaccines.

“I’m 70 and I’ve gotten sick before,” said Popham. “I don’t have a great immune system.”

Some evangelicals fear the 'mark of the beast' from a coronavirus vaccine

For years they used a mercury based preservative in vaccines. Mercury is toxic to the brain and central nervous system. Some blamed autism in children on vaccines. It is possible to get vaccines without the mercury preservative.

Mercury is also found in silver mercury amalgam dental fillings. Since mercury is highly toxic, some European nations have banned the use of mercury silver fillings. Other European nations have restricted the usage of mercury based fillings. The non-toxic composite fillings were less durable.

 

[Tanj]

For years they used a mercury based preservative in vaccines.

Well, they use one of the several mercury salts.

Mercury is toxic to the brain and central nervous system.

Not in the form delivered in vaccines it isn't. This is pure falsehood. Sodium metal will cause you 3rd degree burns if you hold it. sodium ion is 50% of table salt.

It is possible to get vaccines without the mercury preservative.

In fact it is only present in 2 of the dozen or so flu vaccine formulations, and nowhere else.

Mercury is also found in silver mercury amalgam dental fillings.

Not the same mercury as in thimerosal. Also, amalgams have different properties to their base components.

 

[dqhall]

Well, they use one of the several mercury salts.



Not in the form delivered in vaccines it isn't. This is pure falsehood. Sodium metal will cause you 3rd degree burns if you hold it. sodium ion is 50% of table salt.



In fact it is only present in 2 of the dozen or so flu vaccine formulations, and nowhere else.



Not the same mercury as in thimerosal. Also, amalgams have different properties to their base components.

I am not against life saving vaccines. Thimerosol is methylmercury. Methylmercury is toxic and should be avoided when possible. Vaccine manufacturers have offered other formulations and delivery methods not requiring methylmercury preservative.

For years people argued elemental mercury in dental fillings is not as easily absorbed by the body as methylmercury. Further research revealed mercury vapor was released from amalgam fillings while chewing. This mercury was transported to the lungs where it was absorbed by the blood and then transported to the brain. Some nations in Europe moved to protect their people from this threat.

To desire better health and less exposure to toxic chemicals is not the same as the mark of the beast. Some people against vaccines may not know why they are against vaccines, or that safe vaccines exist. Ignorance is a problem everywhere.

 

[Desk trauma]

Islamic clerics managed to snatch Polio from the verge of extinction with their anit-vax nonsense. Please evangelicals, don't make this your version of that.

 

[UVSATURATED2020]

I think, what people are concerned with is that they have heard the story about Bill Gates, wanting people to be tagged with a microchip, thereby certifying them as being vaccinated. I am sure rumors of this rumor have floated around and been received by the concerned people in question.

However, the Lord does state, that the Love of Money is the root of all evil. It also says in Revelations that the antichrist will make all men accept a mark on their hand or forehead and they may not be able to buy or sell lest they have this mark. It seems pretty obvious to me that the mark has to be conivingly instituted through a stealthy practice to get a majority of people to take this chip, which is already being used on dogs and cats in shelters for tracking.

Do not wonder if it is going to happen, but wonder how you will escape it when the beast insists you and your families must have it or you will die.

That is the jest of it.

 

[Desk trauma]

That is the jest of it.

Indeed.

Granted the joke would be a great deal more humorous were it not flowing from baseless paranoia with the punch line being the continued spread of a deadly virus when it could be stopped.

 

[SarahsKnight]

Not in the form delivered in vaccines it isn't. This is pure falsehood. Sodium metal will cause you 3rd degree burns if you hold it. sodium ion is 50% of table salt.

The kind of reasoning there that you are (intelligently) debunking reminds me of this article I looked up once researching something during my job at Nestle Heslth Science. The writer was ranting about how dangerous cyanocobalamin (a manufactured form of the B12 vitamin, mind you all who may not know) is to take for B12 deficiency ... because the cyanide group is present somewhere on the structure of the entire compound, I guess, hence the "cyano" part of the name. This dude seemed to seriously think that because a carbon triple-bonded to a nitrogen atom is in there somewhere, that taking cyanocobalamin was just a slower way of reenacting the Jonestown massacre.


Now granted I pretty much sucked at my job at Nestle, but I at least knew enough chemistry to spot the paranoid BS right then and there.

 

[wing2000]

Peggy Popham gets her flu shot every year, despite her daughter Laura’s opposition to vaccines.

“I’m 70 and I’ve gotten sick before,” said Popham. “I don’t have a great immune system.”

Some evangelicals fear the 'mark of the beast' from a coronavirus vaccine

....I wonder if Peggy has the mark of the smallpox vaccine on her upper left arm...

 

[essentialsaltes]

Well, at least they can get chip credit cards now.

They have a prophecy with a slot in it, and they are desperate to fill the slot to make prophecy come true. And when it turns out to be a dud, they will simply move on to the next, as surely as Gog is the Soviet Union.

 

[Bobber]

If there was an element of a taking of a vaccine which said you must reject Jesus Christ as being your Lord and Savior and Jesus was and is God I can't see anything like this as being the Mark of the Beast. Now that doesn't mean one shouldn't study to feel and know that a certain vaccine is safe and perhaps being hesitate to take it but that's another issue.

 

[keith99]

For years they used a mercury based preservative in vaccines. Mercury is toxic to the brain and central nervous system. Some blamed autism in children on vaccines. It is possible to get vaccines without the mercury preservative.

Mercury is also found in silver mercury amalgam dental fillings. Since mercury is highly toxic, some European nations have banned the use of mercury silver fillings. Other European nations have restricted the usage of mercury based fillings. The non-toxic composite fillings were less durable.

And people who believed the silver filling garbage often reported feeling so much better as soon as they got them removed, despite the fact that removal meant a peak in exposure.

 

[keith99]

If there was an element of a taking of a vaccine which said you must reject Jesus Christ as being your Lord and Savior and Jesus was and is God I can't see anything like this as being the Mark of the Beast. Now that doesn't mean one shouldn't study to feel and know that a certain vaccine is safe and perhaps being hesitate to take it but that's another issue.

The one thing I can see is the possibility that some businesses might want to decline to do business with unvaccinated individuals. BUT scripture is quite clear that the mark is on the head or hand, not in paperwork.

 

[Bobber]

Well, at least they can get chip credit cards now.

They have a prophecy with a slot in it, and they are desperate to fill the slot to make prophecy come true. And when it turns out to be a dud, they will simply move on to the next, as surely as Gog is the Soviet Union.

Perhaps. But you might want to be careful in rejecting EVERYTHING. Remember the story of the boy who cried wolf? Oh yes he was wrong lots of time but eventually he was right in what he was saying. So is one to be gullible? No....but good to keep one's mind weighing and assessing things. Not doing so makes one just as presumptuous as the one they criticize.

 

[SarahsKnight]

If there was an element of a taking of a vaccine which said you must reject Jesus Christ as being your Lord and Savior and Jesus was and is God I can't see anything like this as being the Mark of the Beast. Now that doesn't mean one shouldn't study to feel and know that a certain vaccine is safe and perhaps being hesitate to take it but that's another issue.

Then you are acting a lot wiser than the woman named Laura Popham in the OP article.

 

[dqhall]

And people who believed the silver filling garbage often reported feeling so much better as soon as they got them removed, despite the fact that removal meant a peak in exposure.

What evidence did Sweden, Denmark and Norway see that made them ban mercury amalgam fillings? The European Union has banned mercury silver fillings in pregnant women and children under 15.

Some people who reduced meat consumption felt better. There is no way the are going to ban meat consumption.

 

[Tanj]

I am not against life saving vaccines.

Evidence suggests otherwise.

Thimerosol is methylmercury.

No, it isn't. thimerosal is ethylmercury. A completely different material. Much like methanol is different from ethanol.

For years people argued elemental mercury in dental fillings

From the point of view of vaccines, what goes into dental fillings is utterly irrelevant. As such, I just don't care.

 

[wing2000]

Maybe she's counting on the "Queen Bee" dance to eliminate the virus.

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