Not if you don't claim infallability for your opinion. I can believe something, defend and argue for it, and know that I might be wrong. I can even change my beliefs im I am convinced otherwise. Dogma cannot do that.
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Not if you don't claim infallability for your opinion. I can believe something, defend and argue for it, and know that I might be wrong. I can even change my beliefs im I am convinced otherwise. Dogma cannot do that.
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I think the most reliable way that God has made use of preserving doctrine is to give every denomination a piece of the pie to hold onto. And those who can't look and see the whole picture are wearing blinders.
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That kind of scheme doesn't do me any good, I want the whole truth.
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Either 12 or 24. We must needs some tradition somewhere ! It's a big pie
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I want the whole pieThat kind of scheme doesn't do me any good, I want the whole truth.
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Pilate wanted to know about that also at the trial of our LordThat kind of scheme doesn't do me any good, I want the whole truth.
John 18:37 Pilate said then to Him "Not then a king art Thou"?
Jesus answered "thou are saying that a king am I.
Into this I have been born, and into this I have come into the world, that I should be testifying to the Truth. Every the one being out of the Truth, is hearing of Me the voice.
38 Pilate is saying to Him "What is Truth"?
And this saying, again he came out to the Judeans and is saying to them "I not yet am finding fault in Him".
YouTube - Truth or Consequences (December 31, 1956): Bob Barker's 1st show! Part 1
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And why shouldn't you? I believe I can have it, and rest in certainty that I have it.I want the whole pie
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I'm sorry, maybe I can clarify.
You said that sola scriptura, in effect, sets Christians up as their own pope, right? I disagreed, stating that Papal Dogma is infallible, so if we always recognize the fallability (though not necessarily the correctness) of our beliefs, then we have not become our own pope.
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No, it means that the gates wont prevail.
Infallible? Doesn't even imply that.
Why would God use infallible men (the church)
to uphold His truth? Because HE gets ALL the glory!
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Reminds me of the Star Trek (Next Gen) episode "The Chase".
But this doesn't make sense to me. Are you saying that when Jesus taught we all had the truth but then we broke up into the many churches and each maintains a piece of the truth?
Or, that they developed pieces of the truth independently of each other.
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Levitical priesthood went out with Eli. We still don't have the Melchezadec priesthood no matter what tradition tells the EO. So that leaves us with denominations from fragmentations of what Jesus began.
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Most personal Protestant Pope's measure of their own truth is based on circular reasoning, and that's highly dangerous; that the Holy Spirit will guide them and therefore whatever conclusion that they come to was guided by the Holy Spirit.
It's good that you have an ability to question this - self-reflection can be a good thing.
However, sola scriptura is not infallible, because it is a man-made dogma dating back only some 500 years.
The church is infallible.
No doubt
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How do a bunch of people who disagree with each other on what Scripture is, whether Jesus is God or not, what we must do to be saved, what hell and heaven are -- in short, what the truth is -- glorify God?
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