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Appriciate your in put. And Jesus said the well is deep.Thanks you two for this interesting discussion. Unfortunately I am a mod moderating another forum and don't have the time to get involved with this deep theology but I am enjoying this and learning from it. That was a great post you wrote Ben12, keep them coming if you can!
I think this is one of the most facinating subjects to learn about out of the OT. I don't place much importance on tradition but when you study Hebrew tradition you start to understand why Jesus did some of the things He did and why He said some of the things He said.
And what were Jesus last words? Jesus is our high priest so it was very appropriate for Him to say that.
Do you remember where you read that at? I am curious to look at it. Thanks.I think this is one of the most facinating subjects to learn about out of the OT. I don't place much importance on tradition but when you study Hebrew tradition you start to understand why Jesus did some of the things He did and why He said some of the things He said.
I just learned just a few days ago that according to tradition, after the high priest was done with the last sacrifice during the passover feast, when he was done sprinkling the blood on the mercy seat on the ark he always ended by saying..."it is finished"!
I'm sorry LittleLambofJesus but I'm a mod and am extremely busy. I really don't have the time to get in any discussions but thought I should let you know that I didn't read that anywhere but heard this on Perry Stones weekly tv show. He was saying that while in Jeresalem studying with Jewish scholars one of the men he was studying with told him this. I wish I could tell you more but I can't. Whether it's true or not it sure would be interesting doing research on.Do you remember where you read that at? I am curious to look at it. Thanks.
No problem and thanks for starting this thread.
One major important fact is that the Pattern of the temple on earth, was the same pattern of the temple in heaven. With this being understood and studing the meaning of the perticular design of the temple, we can see that God had redemption as His plan even before anything exsisted.
The bronze altar in the outer court was 7.5 feet square and 4.5 feet high, was made of acacia wood overlaid with bronze, and had a horn on each corner. The fire on the altar was to be kept burning at all times and the daily sacrifices were offered in the morning and afternoon. Here a repentant sinner who believed in the One True God would bring in a little year old lamb without blemish to be sacrificed for their sins. They had to be there laying their hand on the little lambs head confessing their sins and then watch the life of the little lamb sacrificed in their place. So altar of burnt offering, worked on their imagination, burning the dreadfulness of sin, and the final consequences of sin and the sinner into their heart. It was telling them as it should be telling you You should have died for the sins that you have committed.
The Temple services in the outer court are the first introductions that a sinner has to how God is going to reconcile man with Himself. Since sin can not exist in the presence of God and without God, we would cease to exist. There has to be a way made for God to save the sinner. There was a way provided that sin can be separated from the sinner. It involved sacrifice. Out of love, Yeshua volunteered before we were even created, before the foundation of the world..
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Sin had separated the Son from the Father. It was devastating for both the Father and the Son to be separated for the first time in all of eternity. We probably will not truly understand the incredible sacrifice our God did in dying for us until we sit at His feet and learn from Him the immense sacrifice God made. This type of devotion that God has for us, to send His Only Begotten Son to die for us, that we may live, is beyond anything that we have experience here on earth.
To bear the condemnation of all the sins of mankind, Yeshua showed His willingness to take the sins of the world upon Himself by being baptized by John.
Today the meaning of the basin is be washed of all our sins by believing in Yeshua and His ministry for us. Truly repentant, the Lord can save, those that seek forgiveness for themselves with the washing away of their sins as Yeshua provided in this symbolic service. If we follow Yeshuas leading, He will have us baptized three times. First is the baptism of water, then he baptize us with the Holy Spirit and finally with fire.
Those of us who have been baptized, have by our baptism asked God to help us die to the old self and take on a new life in Christ. This is what Yeshua wanted his disciples to understand before they asked who gets to sit beside him on the throne.
The Laver of Bronze was made of bronze, it was always filled with water. In the tabernacle in Jerusalem, the priests that served in the Temple washed their hands and feet at the laver before entering the Temple. This washing was symbolic of the washing of sins off our lives before entering into the services of God. Yeshua accepted all sins passed onto Him and bore the condemnation of these sins to the cross, that we may be washed and be clean from all sinfulness of the flesh.
Sin separates you from God. Without God, you cease to exist. How far can you go away from God and live? We are so far from God, that we can not see Him. We are so far from God that we often wonder if He truly exists. God knows that is the way you feel sometimes. It is sin that is separating you from Him. God has no desire for you to feel this way about Him. God has prepared a way, to take sin, the stumbling block that separates you from Him out of the way.
He knew that this would happen when we wander to far away from Him. He laid out a plan, that would bring us back to Him in the only way that it can be done.
The Temple services in the outer court are the first introductions that a sinner has to how God is going to reconcile man with Himself. Since sin can not exist in the presence of God and without God, we would cease to exist. There has to be a way made for God to save the sinner. There was a way provided that sin can be separated from the sinner. It involved sacrifice. Out of love, Yeshua volunteered before we were even created, before the foundation of the world..
Come close to God and see that He is good. Come closer to God and see that He is your only hope of salvation. Come closer to God and find the emptiness in your heart can only be filled with God. God is what is missing in your life. Without God, you become critical, cruel and bitter. You see everything in a harsh manner. You may not even realize how horrible you are or are becoming.
You were made to have God dwell within you. You will not feel whole until you let Him into your life in a real and enduring sincere way. Those with the tender heart and repentant spirit, will see the need to not sin any more, and pray that they will not. Sin cripples, and slowly destroys you. Sin sets you up to die. You need to also see that you are to sin no more.
Without God, you are spiritually dead. There is more than one death. These two deaths, a spiritual and physical death, Yeshua died each in turn.
This is where Yeshua took into his pure lovely spirit the fallen sinful nature of us all which separated Him from His Holy Father. The spiritual death came at this spiritual separation from His Holy Father. He drank into Himself who we were and, instead of saying, "My Father", He said, "My God, My God why have you forsaken me"? Yeshua was crying out in our place because God had forsaken Him who became sin for us. This was an unfair trade, one we will never be able to
