Mormons & Polygamy

[Ran77]

How about I take a bold step in this discussion and claim that I'm all for having polygamy restored. I'd be interested in comments against it.


:o

 

[drstevej]

How about I take a bold step in this discussion and claim that I'm all for having polygamy restored. I'd be interested in comments against it.

Can you explain your reasons? Would you participate if it were legal?

 

[awitch]

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[drstevej]

I edited my post prior to reading yours, awitch.

 

[awitch]

Widthrdawn

 

[Ran77]

Can you explain your reasons? Would you participate if it were legal?

Yes, I can.

My wife and I get together with a decent sized group of adults for board game night. Several of the ladies who attend are single, have never been married, and have very little chance that they will be married. These are very wonderful ladies with, in my opinion, a lot to offer a soul mate. My heart goes out to these women (not in a romantic way). If polygamy was legal and in practice I wouldn't be surprised if my wife picked a second, or third, wife for me. I'm not sure about whether I would accept.

 

[drstevej]

Yes, I can.

My wife and I get together with a decent sized group of adults for board game night. Several of the ladies who attend are single, have never been married, and have very little chance that they will be married. These are very wonderful ladies with, in my opinion, a lot to offer a soul mate. My heart goes out to these women (not in a romantic way). If polygamy was legal and in practice I wouldn't be surprised if my wife picked a second, or third, wife for me. I'm not sure about whether I would accept.

What if she desired additional husbands?

 

[mahesh]

It's a part of the churches history and was practiced by their original prophets, it's still an issue whether or not they were alive at the time.

There is no compelling evidence it was part of the church to practice such things back then. Its only speculations and I dont believe any accounts from back then cause they are long dead and there are no accountable witnesses .

 

[awitch]

There is no compelling evidence it was part of the church to practice such things back then. Its only speculations and I dont believe any accounts from back then cause they are long dead and there are no accountable witnesses. Maybe some families lived with that kind of lifestyle as anyone else back then, regardless whether they are members of the church. Back then you could get away with anything, so people do all sorts of things.

I think the fact that they had issue the Manifesto at all is sufficient to believe it was institutionalized at one time.
I'm still wondering what Christians expect from modern day Mormons when the ones who did practice it are long dead.

 

[Jane_the_Bane]

So, is this the point where I bring up slavery as fundamental parts of American evangelical Christianity, even if it is no longer practiced today? If we're talking about issues that were settled more than a hundred years ago, Mormonism's final rejection of polygamy sure is a lot closer to the abolition of slavery via the 13th amendment than to our own days.

Also, biblically speaking the pro-slavery Christians always had Scripture on their side. It's only due to more modern, liberal sentiment that the practice was abolished.

 

[gord44]

I think the fact that they had issue the Manifesto at all is sufficient to believe it was institutionalized at one time.
I'm still wondering what Christians expect from modern day Mormons when the ones who did practice it are long dead.

Probably to show Mormons of their flawed forerunners, unlike the pure evolution of Protestant Christianity which has been perfect and unchanged since the days of Christ, without error or mistake for 2000 years.

 

[mahesh]

I think the fact that they had issue the Manifesto at all is sufficient to believe it was institutionalized at one time.
I'm still wondering what Christians expect from modern day Mormons when the ones who did practice it are long dead.

Not really, no leader of the church is going to publicly declare they would practice such things, when its controversial and could get them in trouble. Such manifesto clearly suggest there was some kind of motive to sabotage the church, make it look like its own members said those things. There is no one alive today to prove they actually declared such things verbally. Manifesto back then is not really a good evidence, someone else could have said something or threaten leaders of the churchs with there family to say something. Its not accountable especially when its like 100 years ago.

 

[awitch]

Not really, no leader of the church is going to publicly declare they would practice such things, when its controversial and could get them in trouble. Such manifesto clearly suggest there was some kind of motive to sabotage the church, make it look like its own members said those things. There is no one alive today to prove they actually declared such things verbally. Manifesto back then is not really a good evidence, someone else could have said something or threaten leaders of the churchs with there family to say something. Its not accountable especially when its like 100 years ago.

Well, I'm just going to leave this link here. One that points to LDS.org.

 

[Ran77]

What if she desired additional husbands?

She doesn't.

 

[drstevej]

Jane, are you familiar with the LDS "revelation" of Celestial marriage and it's implications for Mormon theology? The parallel between that and slavery is qui

She doesn't.

Cool.Given the flow of the culture you may have your opportunity. Maybe you can do a sequel to Sister Wives.

 

[Ran77]

<Staff Edit>
Polygamy exists in the world today. And I'm not talking about the forced marriage of some sects. There are plenty of plural marriages that exist in which the women willingly entered as one of several wives. I'm sure there are plenty of the reverse situation as well. The fact is that some women will accept a plural marriage situation. <Staff Edit>

What I have presented is a situation where women who are kind and sweet daughters of God live alone. They face the prospect of living their entire lives without a spouse. It doesn't take much imagination on my part to see that these ladies might appreciate polygamy as a means of ending that loneliness. Because when we really come down to it, I'm not talking about multiple sex partners, I'm talking about everyone having a spouse with whom they can share the events of the day with. I'm all for all good women, and men, having a partner with which they can navigate the problems of this life.

 

[Ran77]

Cool.Given the flow of the culture you may have your opportunity. Maybe you can do a sequel to Sister Wives.

I'm pretty sure that I have already stated in this thread that I have no interest in having any additional wives. I see no reason for this comment.

On the other hand, if we step into the fantasy world you are presenting here, I think you would be very disappointed with the results of my reality show. Happy LDS women in a plural marriage would deflate a great number of the attacks against polygamy. Although, family game night might be fun to watch.

 

[drstevej]

I'm pretty sure that I have already stated in this thread that I have no interest in having any additional wives. I see no reason for this comment.

On the other hand, if we step into the fantasy world you are presenting here, I think you would be very disappointed with the results of my reality show. Happy LDS women in a plural marriage would deflate a great number of the attacks against polygamy. Although, family game night might be fun to watch.

It was a light hearted comment.

 

[fatboys]

Not really, no leader of the church is going to publicly declare they would practice such things, when its controversial and could get them in trouble. Such manifesto clearly suggest there was some kind of motive to sabotage the church, make it look like its own members said those things. There is no one alive today to prove they actually declared such things verbally. Manifesto back then is not really a good evidence, someone else could have said something or threaten leaders of the churchs with there family to say something. Its not accountable especially when its like 100 years ago.

My great great grand father had several wives. We still have reunions with all the posterity of the wives which is few thousand

 

[fatboys]

Like the chaplain said, "It was a lighthearted comment".

I had in mind those that say, "I marry whoever I will"

They cannot, most often it will narrow down to two or three,

And even then it is dependent on a "Yes"

But if you want to be serious, How do you know if someone is going to spend their lives alone?

Do not the women you mentioned have a will of their own?

What is there to say their husband to be is not just around the corner?

If they marry you, what then?

I do not know you, you are right there, but I don,t think I,m missing out on anything .

Few people like to be alone