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Featured LDS MORMONS: Heavenly Mom Gets Less Respect

Discussion in 'Debate Other Religions & Faiths' started by drstevej, May 10, 2020.

  1. drstevej

    drstevej Light Attracts Bugs Staff Member Chaplain Supporter

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    Heavenly Father is Worshiped, Why not Heavenly Mom?
    The Son is Worshiped, Why not Heavenly Mom?

    Is She(she) fully God or something less?
     
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  2. drstevej

    drstevej Light Attracts Bugs Staff Member Chaplain Supporter

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    Poor Mormon Heavenly Mom. No Mormons here want to defend her equality with Heavenly Dad.

    I wonder if this doesn't inflect upon and impact the Mormon view of marriage?
     
  3. Ironhold

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    You keep bringing this point up, even to the extent of derailing unrelated topics.

    As part of it, we've answered you time and time again, only for you to reject any answer you get. It's as if you have already determined the answer you want to hear and refuse to believe anything else could be the case.

    It's only logical to presume that no one is interested in having this same discussion yet again, especially when there are other, more pressing issues people are concerned with.
     
  4. drstevej

    drstevej Light Attracts Bugs Staff Member Chaplain Supporter

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    A lecture of the poster is not an answer. Previous answers were evasive and non responsive.

    Is Heavenly Mom fully God as are the Father and Son?
     
  5. Ironhold

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    Those previous answers gave you *everything* in the church's official canon.

    Or are you asking for personal speculation?
     
  6. drstevej

    drstevej Light Attracts Bugs Staff Member Chaplain Supporter

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    Is Heavenly Mom fully God as are the Father and Son?
    • Yes
    • No
    Chose one.

    Do you worship Heavenly Mom?
    • Yes
    • No
    Chose one.
     
  7. drstevej

    drstevej Light Attracts Bugs Staff Member Chaplain Supporter

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    No answers? ^^^^

    This is a hymn you sing...


    3.
    I had learned to call thee Father,
    Thru thy Spirit from on high
    But, until the key of knowledge
    Was restored
    , I knew not why.

    In the heav’ns are parents single
    No, the thought makes reason stare!
    Truth is reason; truth eternal
    Tells me I’ve a mother there.
     
  8. Hammster

    Hammster Gomaristist Staff Member Site Advisor Supporter

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    Could an LDS member at least provide a link with the official position?
     
  9. He is the way

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    Mother in Heaven

    (Old Testament | Genesis 1:26 - 27)

    26 ¶ And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
    27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
     
  10. Ironhold

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    Thank you for politely asking.

    Mother in Heaven

    Note that due to a series of updates to the church website over the last two years, some pages aren't displaying properly on certain monitors. This is the result of the people doing the update having a knack for breaking more than they fix. :help:

    This link is a general summation of the church's theology on the matter, and if memory serves has been posted here dozens of times in the past.

    The portion most relevant to this thread is here:

    Latter-day Saints direct their worship to Heavenly Father, in the name of Christ, and do not pray to Heavenly Mother. In this, they follow the pattern set by Jesus Christ, who taught His disciples to “always pray unto the Father in my name.”11 Latter-day Saints are taught to pray to Heavenly Father, but as President Gordon B. Hinckley said, “The fact that we do not pray to our Mother in Heaven in no way belittles or denigrates her.”12 Indeed, as Elder Rudger Clawson wrote, “We honor woman when we acknowledge Godhood in her eternal Prototype.”13

    The article itself notes that little has so far been revealed or taught, but that the presence of a Heavenly Mother is still accepted in the theology.

    ...In other words, most of what critics of the church claim to "know" is most likely speculation that they and others have put together.
     
  11. Hammster

    Hammster Gomaristist Staff Member Site Advisor Supporter

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    Is there a better article that’s not all cut up and unintelligible?

    Edit: For some reason, Ironhold’s link worked better.
     
  12. Ironhold

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    Yeah; the development team who works the church's website is infamous for their ability to break more than they fix whenever they try to run updates.
     
  13. Hammster

    Hammster Gomaristist Staff Member Site Advisor Supporter

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    “As with many other truths of the gospel, our present knowledge about a Mother in Heaven is limited. Nevertheless, we have been given sufficient knowledge to appreciate the sacredness of this doctrine and to comprehend the divine pattern established for us as children of heavenly parents.”

    Can you explain what this sufficient knowledge is, and where it’s given?
     
  14. He is the way

    He is the way Well-Known Member

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    Yes I see that. Here is another link: Spirit Children of Heavenly Parents
     
  15. Ironhold

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    There should be numbered links to footnotes inside of the text and additional links at the bottom of the article that reference the various resources.

    Are they not displaying properly?
     
  16. Hammster

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    They are. But nothing for that statement.
     
  17. He is the way

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    There are scriptures etc. from my link. That being said I would not expect you to believe the same things we believe. We believe these things on faith just as we believe in God through faith.
     
  18. Ironhold

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    I'm guessing that it's meant to be a summation statement.
     
  19. Hammster

    Hammster Gomaristist Staff Member Site Advisor Supporter

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    Faith has to be built on something, though.
     
  20. Hammster

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    I’ll look at the links later, then, and see if that’s addressed.
     
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