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Mormon View of Life After Death

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Phoebe; This is my belief:
"Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again."
John 3:7

so let's look at that;
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother’s womb, and be born?
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again……

20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
22 ¶After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judæa; and there he tarried with them, and baptized.

Now let’s compare this to what happened in Acts 2 on the day of Pentecost

37 ¶Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

The prick in the heart is the first part of the born again experience, you’ve come to know by the Spirit that Jesus is the Son of God, then Peter tells them they need to be born of the water or baptized and then born of the Spirit by receiving the Gift of the Holy Ghost. In several places in the New Testament this is done by the laying on of hands. Paul received it this way and he gave it this way.

Now Jesus and his Apostles went into the land of Judaea and began to baptize people He also explain that “he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest” as I said earlier to the Hebrew truth was something you do.

You have dismissed what our Savior said about how to obtain Eternal Life, sell all that you have and follow me. The early Christians did just that;

Act 2
44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.

So why do you dismiss it?
 
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Phoebe; This is my belief:
"Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again."
John 3:7

so let's look at that;
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother’s womb, and be born?
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again……

You dismissed a lot of verses.

The Spirit's choice:
The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
John 3:8

So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
Romans 9:16


The Father's choice:
No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
John 6:44

And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
John 6:39

As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.
John 17:2

Acts 38
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

I've not met a Christian who wasn't following Christ and His commandments. Have you?
 
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Phoebe; I've not met a Christian who wasn't following Christ and His commandments. Have you?

I have had Evangelical Christians tell be they don't need to be baptized in order to be saved and most Christians do not have the slightest idea of what the laying on of hands is. They do talk about an indwelling of the Spirit but assume it just happens because they say so.
 
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Phoebe; I've not met a Christian who wasn't following Christ and His commandments. Have you?

I have had Evangelical Christians tell be they don't need to be baptized in order to be saved and most Christians do not have the slightest idea of what the laying on of hands is. They do talk about an indwelling of the Spirit but assume it just happens because they say so.

Jesus saved us. Baptism doesn't. Water can't compare to the blood of Jesus. I don't know what they told you about the Holy Spirit --- I don't know who they were --- I don't even know if they were Christians. We don't know how much they know about the Bible.

Please answer the following:
I've not met a Christian who wasn't following Christ and His commandments. Have you?
 
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Phoebe Article of Faith 3. We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.

I was saved and am being saved by faith in the blood of Jesus.



It says “through the Atonement” or his blood that all mankind can be saved. So we agree on that.

The argument is; does faith alone save you?

And now let’s look at the second Article of Faith which explains these laws and ordinances;

We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.

What does the Bible teach?

“Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart/faith, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?

Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost…. And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.” Acts 2

So there is faith, repentance, baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost.

There is no place in the Bible where it says you will be saved by faith alone. In fact the only passage which has 'faith' and 'alone' in a passages says the opposite;

James 2:17
17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

Wonderful explanation!

Here is another great explanation of how the three degrees of glory are dicernable by one who has the faith to hear. :)

Many Mansions in Heaven

The scriptures teach that each person will stand before God and give an accounting to him of his or her life upon this earth. Let us see what happens after the judgment. Jesus taught that in Heaven there are many places where we may go.

Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.

In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. (John 14:1-3)

It is both fair and just that there are many mansions after the judgment, because we are all different. We have made different decisions with our agency, and we have had different amounts of righteousness and wickedness in our lives.

Paul spoke of a vision in which he was caught up to the “third heaven”. Although he did not clearly explain what he meant by the “third heaven”, his statement is significant because it fits in with the Savior’s statement of “many mansions”.

I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. (2 Corinthians 12:2)

In chapter 15 of 1 Corinthians, Paul taught about the resurrection and gave a strong implication that there are differences in the mansions of the Father’s house. In verse 35, he asked the question, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come? He then proceeded to explain that mortal bodies die but God will give bodies as it pleases Him. Paul introduced two metaphors to explain the differences in resurrected bodies. The first metaphor concerns differences between the flesh of humans and animals.

All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds. (1 Corinthians 15:39)

The second metaphor concerns differences in the brightness of celestial bodies.

There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial; but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.

There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory. (1 Corinthians 15:40-41)

After giving these metaphors to illustrate the principle of “differences”, he states there will be differences in the resurrection.

So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: (1 Corinthians 15:42)

That is, just as there are different types of flesh on this earth, and just as celestial bodies have different amounts of light, so will we come forth in the resurrection with different bodies. All resurrected bodies will be perfect, but they will vary in glory as the sun varies from the moon and the moon varies from the stars and the stars vary from each other in light. This is a strong implication that there are different mansions in the Father’s house that correspond to the different resurrected bodies. The mansions will vary in glory, happiness, and beauty.

Through latter-day revelation in a vision given to Joseph Smith and Sidney Rigdon, the Lord described the mansions in the Father’s house. This vision is recorded in Section 76 of the Doctrine and Covenants. From this revelation, we learn there are four basic places in the life to come. Three of them are places of glory, and the fourth place is one without glory. ... https://mormonsite.wordpress.com/mansions/
 
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Jesus saved us. Baptism doesn't. Water can't compare to the blood of Jesus. I don't know what they told you about the Holy Spirit --- I don't know who they were --- I don't even know if they were Christians. We don't know how much they know about the Bible.

Please answer the following:
I've not met a Christian who wasn't following Christ and His commandments. Have you?

Phoebe; Jesus saved us. Baptism doesn't. Water can't compare to the blood of Jesus.

Mark
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

1Peter 3:21 The like figure where unto even baptism doth also now save us

Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

Col 2:12
12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

Gal 3:21 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Perhaps you were an easy target for the Evangelicals because you never read the Bible?
 
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Phoebe; Jesus saved us. Baptism doesn't. Water can't compare to the blood of Jesus.

Mark
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

1Peter 3:21 The like figure where unto even baptism doth also now save us

Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

Col 2:12
12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

Gal 3:21 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Perhaps you were an easy target for the Evangelicals because you never read the Bible?

I wasn't an easy target for evangelicals. If you only knew. My spiritual journey out of Mormonism was this:

Proverbs 3
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Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

7 Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil.

Evangelicals baptize Christians. Non-Christians seldom want baptism.
 
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Wonderful explanation!

Here is another great explanation of how the three degrees of glory are dicernable by one who has the faith to hear. :)

Many Mansions in Heaven

The scriptures teach that each person will stand before God and give an accounting to him of his or her life upon this earth. Let us see what happens after the judgment. Jesus taught that in Heaven there are many places where we may go.

Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.

In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. (John 14:1-3)

It is both fair and just that there are many mansions after the judgment, because we are all different. We have made different decisions with our agency, and we have had different amounts of righteousness and wickedness in our lives.

Paul spoke of a vision in which he was caught up to the “third heaven”. Although he did not clearly explain what he meant by the “third heaven”, his statement is significant because it fits in with the Savior’s statement of “many mansions”.

I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. (2 Corinthians 12:2)

In chapter 15 of 1 Corinthians, Paul taught about the resurrection and gave a strong implication that there are differences in the mansions of the Father’s house. In verse 35, he asked the question, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come? He then proceeded to explain that mortal bodies die but God will give bodies as it pleases Him. Paul introduced two metaphors to explain the differences in resurrected bodies. The first metaphor concerns differences between the flesh of humans and animals.

All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds. (1 Corinthians 15:39)

The second metaphor concerns differences in the brightness of celestial bodies.

There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial; but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.

There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory. (1 Corinthians 15:40-41)

After giving these metaphors to illustrate the principle of “differences”, he states there will be differences in the resurrection.

So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: (1 Corinthians 15:42)

That is, just as there are different types of flesh on this earth, and just as celestial bodies have different amounts of light, so will we come forth in the resurrection with different bodies. All resurrected bodies will be perfect, but they will vary in glory as the sun varies from the moon and the moon varies from the stars and the stars vary from each other in light. This is a strong implication that there are different mansions in the Father’s house that correspond to the different resurrected bodies. The mansions will vary in glory, happiness, and beauty.

Through latter-day revelation in a vision given to Joseph Smith and Sidney Rigdon, the Lord described the mansions in the Father’s house. This vision is recorded in Section 76 of the Doctrine and Covenants. From this revelation, we learn there are four basic places in the life to come. Three of them are places of glory, and the fourth place is one without glory. ...

All Christians are His sheep who follow Him, we obey His commandments (but if we sin we have an advocate with the Father), we are His sheep and have eternal life, we don't view other Christians as less worthy, we are all sharing in the righteousness of Christ.

These are our blessings freely given by a merciful God:

Ephesians 1:3
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:


The problem Mormons face is believing that "mansions" represent places apart from God. If those "mansions" are separated from God, you're ignoring the fact that they are in His house!

Here's what Joseph Fielding Smith wrote:



"The ordinances of the temple, the endowment and sealings, pertain to exaltation in the celestial kingdom, where the sons and daughters are. The sons and daughters are not outside in some other kingdom. The sons and daughters go into the house, belong to the household, have access to the home. ‘In my Father’s house are many mansions’ [John 14:2]. Sons and daughters have access to the home where he dwells, and you cannot receive that access until you go to the temple. Why? Because you must receive certain key words as well as make covenants by which you are able to enter. If you try to get into the house, and the door is locked, how are you going to enter, if you haven’t your key? You get your key in the temple, which will admit you.". . . You cannot find a key on the street, for that key is never lost that will open the door that enters into our Father’s mansions. You have got to go where the key is given. And each can obtain the key, if you will; but after receiving it, you may lose it, by having it taken away from you again unless you abide by the agreement which you entered into when you went into the house of the Lord."

Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, 2:40–41

Not even all LDS brothers and sisters will become members of the Church of the Firstborn in the Celestial Kingdom. In this life they are brothers and sisters in the church which is considered the Kingdom of God on earth; in that life the less worthy are servants to the more worthy who are members of the Church of the Firstborn. However, the less worthy are not allowed where the worthy dwell!
 
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Phoebe; Jesus saved us. Baptism doesn't. Water can't compare to the blood of Jesus.

Mark
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

It is worthwhile to note that the one who shall be damned is the unbeliever, not the unbaptized!

John 3
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

36
He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
 
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Why won't you answer my question?
Please answer the following:
I've not met a Christian who wasn't following Christ and His commandments. Have you?

Yes.

It's been my experience that the louder a person is about professing their status as a "Good Christian", the greater the odds that they're anything but.

The Christian counter-cult is full of examples of people whose lips preached God when their hearts weren't anywheres near him.
 
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It is worthwhile to note that the one who shall be damned is the unbeliever, not the unbaptized!

John 3
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

36
He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

The Evangelical lady who was trying to save my soul used that very same argument

“It is worthwhile to note that the one who shall be damned is the unbeliever, not the unbaptized!”

But in posting 28 you said “ Non-Christians seldom want baptism”

Do you see your own logic?? the non believer will not want to be baptized so they won't be save.

The lady that witnessed to me also used John 3 on me;

John 3
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

So I went and opened my Bible and read the whole chapter and found this;

19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

In other words those who love darkness do not want to repent they don’t want to stop doing what they are doing so they won’t be saved.

But those who love God will want to come to the light and serve him, they will be save.

One passage which made me realize how wrong my Evangelical friend was is Rom 2, Paul writes;

“6 (God)….will render to every man according to his deeds:
7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,

Another passage which help me see the truth was Matt 25 and the parable Jesus gave. There were three servants or Christians, each knew their Lord. The first two take the talents given to them and they work to serve their Lord, they are told ‘well done thy good and faithful servant…enter thou into the joy of thy lord”.

But, the last one where little was required of him having just one talent hid his talent and did nothing. He was told “Thou wicked and slothful servant, ….cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

The next thing Jesus teaches there is very important;

“ 29 For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath.”

It fits you to the T

From your posting 29 Ephesians 1:3
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

Heavenly Places? That’s the Temple Phoebe, they had their own temples back then, probably not a big place and something temporary but they had it. The Celestial room in the Temple represents the Celestial Kingdom, the “heavenly places“. “Spiritual blessings” are the sealings which bind on earth that which is bound in heaven. After his resurrection Jesus gave them the sign, tokens and markings, John 20: 30.

“Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ….That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him” Eph 1:10

You had it all and you threw it away for a mess of potage.
 
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Her god was a failure because 99% of the people who have lived on this earth did not and will not accept her god.

Jesus said, "many are called but few are chosen". God always has a remnant.

I believe that there will be many more people banished to eternal fire then there will be in heaven.
 
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Jesus said, "many are called but few are chosen". God always has a remnant.

I believe that there will be many more people banished to eternal fire then there will be in heaven.

That's truly a sad thought.
 
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The Evangelical lady who was trying to save my soul used that very same argument

“It is worthwhile to note that the one who shall be damned is the unbeliever, not the unbaptized!”

But in posting 28 you said “ Non-Christians seldom want baptism.”

Do you see your own logic?? the non believer will not want to be baptized so they won't be save.

No, what I see is that you don't understand why some are condemned. It is because of unbelief not because of not being baptized.


The lady that witnessed to me also used John 3 on me;

I'm glad she shared it with you. May the Lord open your eyes.

John 3
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

So I went and opened my Bible and read the whole chapter and found this;


19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.


19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light,

Jesus is the Light. Followers of Satan need deliverance by God.

Acts 26
. 16 But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee;17Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee, 18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.

In other words those who love darkness do not want to repent they don’t want to stop doing what they are doing so they won’t be saved.

The reason they follow Satan is because they haven't had the seed of the Gospel brought to life. They need the new birth.

1 Corinthians 3:7
So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.


But those who love God will want to come to the light and serve him, they will be save.

Those who love God have received the new birth. God gave them faith.

Ephesians 2
1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; 2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: 3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. 4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, 5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved) 6 And hath raised usup together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: 7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.


One passage which made me realize how wrong my Evangelical friend was is Rom 2, Paul writes;

“6 (God)….will render to every man according to his deeds:
7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,

Verse 8 is talking about unbelievers who are condemned already. Verse 7 describes the believers.

Another passage which help me see the truth was Matt 25 and the parable Jesus gave. There were three servants or Christians, each knew their Lord. The first two take the talents given to them and they work to serve their Lord, they are told ‘well done thy good and faithful servant…enter thou into the joy of thy lord”.

But, the last one where little was required of him having just one talent hid his talent and did nothing. He was told “Thou wicked and slothful servant, ….cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
The next thing Jesus teaches there is very important;

“ 29 For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath.”

The person given only one talent was clearly not a believer. He didn't have faith to believe that a talent could be of any service to the Master.


It fits you to the T

Shame on you! We may not share the same beliefs but we needn't resort to personal insults.


From your posting 29 Ephesians 1:3
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

Heavenly Places? That’s the Temple Phoebe, they had their own temples back then, probably not a big place and something temporary but they had it.

There was ONE and ONLY ONE temple! The other buildings were synagogues.



The Celestial room in the Temple represents the Celestial Kingdom, the “heavenly places“. “Spiritual blessings” are the sealings which bind on earth that which is bound in heaven. After his resurrection Jesus gave them the sign, tokens and markings, John 20: 30.

“Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ….That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him” Eph 1:10

You had it all and you threw it away for a mess of potage.

When people get emotional and resort to ad hominems, they give the appearance of being very insecure.
 
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Yes.

It's been my experience that the louder a person is about professing their status as a "Good Christian", the greater the odds that they're anything but.

The Christian counter-cult is full of examples of people whose lips preached God when their hearts weren't anywheres near him.

One Christian is the same as another, "having not mine own righteousness." Please show the love of Christ to others.
 
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I grew up worshiping a loving Heavenly Father and understanding I was his daughter, even though I would sin he would always love me. The God I worshiped save everyone from death and hell because he loves his children. I spent several nights in turmoil thinking about the monster she called god and for the life of me I can not understand how anyone could rationally worship such a being.

I never doubted God's love for me. When I need comfort and rest, I find it in Him.

So you believe Joseph Smith's evil words about God:
“Many men say there is one God; the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost are only one God. I say that is a strange God anyhow—three in one, and one in three! It is a curious organization anyhow. All are to be crammed into one God, according to sectarianism. It would make the biggest God in all the world. He would be a wonderfully big God—he would be a giant or a monster.
(Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 372; History of the Church, vol. 6, p. 476)

But Joseph Smith's idea if God is a created being of the same species as man.
 
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"The thing called the children of our Heavenly Father filthy rags and spoke of hell he must have created because he created all things. Her god was going to burn all unbelievers in fire and brimstone. I use a small g in the word God there on purpose because she worshiped a god made in her own image one which was full of hate for everyone who didn't believe like she did. Her god was a failure because 99% of the people who have lived on this earth did not and will not accept her god."


What do you do with John 3:16 ?

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Exodus 32:33 And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book.
 
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