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And the Cartels arm themselves here, too, because the US is one of the easiest places on Earth to buy guns illegally.America is much wealthier and soft on crime. The Biden administration has set up a system so good for the criminals that there is no other place on earth where the cartels and Venezuelan gangs can make even close to the easy money they make on human trafficking.
To Trump's credit, he did try to do something about the issue:And the Cartels arm themselves here, too, because the US is one of the easiest places on Earth to buy guns illegally.
The Obama/Biden administration ran a program called "Fast and Furious" that supplied the Mexican cartels with many weapons. Now cartels and terrorists can obtain some of the billions of dollars of more sophisticated weapons and equipment the Biden administration left behind in Afghanistan. Their alliances with countries like China help them along those lines.And the Cartels arm themselves here, too, because the US is one of the easiest places on Earth to buy guns illegally.
First, it was run out of a local field office, not the Justice Dept. And the practice, which the Bush administration called "Wide Receiver" was started under George W. Bush. It was discontinued under the Obama administration for the obvious reasons.The Obama/Biden administration ran a program called "Fast and Furious" that supplied the Mexican cartels with many weapons.
When Trump surrendered Afghanistan to the Taliban, he apparently promised to leave all that equipment to them. At least that was what they thought he had promised. But it didn't happen. The Army disabled all weapons systems in their possession that they couldn't remove from the country.Now cartels and terrorists can obtain some of the billions of dollars of more sophisticated weapons and equipment the Biden administration left behind in Afghanistan. Their alliances with countries like China help them along those lines.
Is that what happened? Are you sure?When Trump surrendered Afghanistan to the Taliban,
That's simply nonsense. Trump has criticized Biden for leaving billions of dollars of weapons and vehicles and equipment for the Taliban. Trump's withdrawal from Afghanistan, had he been allowed to continue, wouldn't have left all of that stuff. Biden has failed supremely in the withdrawal.When Trump surrendered Afghanistan to the Taliban, he apparently promised to leave all that equipment to them. At least that was what they thought he had promised
Used military equipment like that is expensive to retrieve--better to disable it where it sits.That's simply nonsense. Trump has criticized Biden for leaving billions of dollars of weapons and vehicles and equipment for the Taliban. Trump's withdrawal from Afghanistan, had he been allowed to continue, wouldn't have left all of that stuff. Biden has failed supremely in the withdrawal.
Expensive to what? The military budget of the USA? Unlikely. Why didn't they disable it then? Why'd they leave it all for the Taliban?Used military equipment like that is expensive to retrieve--better to disable it where it sits.
According to my own military experience, it costs a lot less to bring back military equipment than it would cost to eventually replace that kind of military equipment here in the USA.Used military equipment like that is expensive to retrieve--better to disable it where it sits.
They did. Why didn't you check?Expensive to what? The military budget of the USA? Unlikely. Why didn't they disable it then?
It's a complex procedure -- it's a complex and time-intensive procedure to break down those systems. So we demilitarized those systems so that they'll never be used again. And they were just a -- we felt it was more important to protect our forces than to bring those systems back.
We have also demilitarized equipment that we did not bring out at of the airport that included a number of MRAPs -- up to 70 MRAPs that we demilitarized that will never be used again by anyone; 27 Humvees, that little tactical vehicle, that will never be driven again.
And additionally, on the ramp at -- at HKIA are a total of 73 aircraft. Those aircraft will never fly again when we left. They'll never be able to be operated by anyone. Most of them were non-mission capable, to begin with, but certainly they'll never be able to be flown again.
So we either listen to you. Or to Marine Gen. Frank McKenzie, commander of U.S. Central Command.According to my own military experience...
It wasn't about money. It was about timing and logistics.So we either listen to you. Or to Marine Gen. Frank McKenzie, commander of U.S. Central Command.
Hmm...
What a waste of $. You're telling me it's more expensive to fuel a helicopter up a few times and fly it back to the mainland USA than it is to disable it and replace it with a new one, costing multi millions of dollars? Gee, I wonder what costs more. A few full tanks of gas or a brand new helicopter.They did. Why didn't you check?
U.S. troops disabled 170 vehicles, aircraft and weapons systems that they abandoned Monday at the Kabul airport before the remaining American service members in Afghanistan boarded the last flights out of the country, the top U.S. commander in the region said. About 70 Mine Resistant Ambush Protected vehicles, 27 Humvees and 73 aircraft were “demilitarized” by the U.S. at Hamid Karzai International Airport before they left Kabul for the last time, said Marine Gen. Frank McKenzie, commander of U.S. Central Command. “They’ll never be able to be operated by anyone,” McKenzie said of the equipment. “Most of them were non-mission capable to begin with.”
Read more at: US military says troops disabled equipment before abandoning it at Kabul airport
Source - Stars and Stripes
And from here: Did US Leave More Than $80B Worth of Equipment to the Taliban?
For equipment that couldn't be moved out of country, they tried to destroy or disable it. Gen. Kenneth McKenzie, the head of U.S. Central Command, said during a press conference on Aug. 30, 2021:
That's right. You can't send equipment away that you might need to protect those you are evacuating until...they have been evacuated. So if we wanted some input from someone who might be in a position to give it to us, then the commander of U.S. Central Command might be the guy to ask.It wasn't about money. It was about timing and logistics.
Take it up with Oompa Loompa. He says it wasn't about money.What a waste of $.
Well, as much as I would like to bone up on military logistics when it relates to evacuating citizens, government workers and army, marine and air force personnel from a hostile territory (I'm pretty certain you know nothing about it) I don't have all the necessary details, I'm afraid.You're telling me it's more expensive to fuel a helicopter up a few times and fly it back to the mainland USA than it is to disable it and replace it with a new one, costing multi millions of dollars? Gee, I wonder what costs more. A few full tanks of gas or a brand new helicopter.
Well gee whiz. How much $ in fuel did it take to fly a helicopter to Afghanistan. How much $ would it take to simply fuel it up and fly it back to the USA? Would it cost more or less than deactivating it and purchasing a brand new one. I wonder. Did they "deactivate" all the firearms that were left there by removing the firing pins from each gun?Take it up with Oompa Loompa. He says it wasn't about money.
Well, as much as I would like to bone up on military logistics when it relates to evacuating citizens, government workers and army, marine and air force personnel from a hostile territory (I'm pretty certain you know nothing about it) I don't have all the necessary details, I'm afraid.
But let me just check. Your question was...let me see...why didn't they disable the equipment? I'm surprised that you didn't check before asking, but now you know. They did.
If you want some further details, then call Marine Central Command and ask for Marine Gen. Frank McKenzie: (813) 827-4296/4297. Let us know what he says.
We’re too nice and don’t lock-up enough of the correct people?America is much wealthier and soft on crime. The Biden administration has set up a system so good for the criminals that there is no other place on earth where the cartels and Venezuelan gangs can make even close to the easy money they make on human trafficking.
You will really have to ring the general so he can explain it to your satisfaction. With your seeming expertise in Marine fighting equipment logistics I think he'll be glad you rang so he can pick your brains.Well gee whiz. How much $ in fuel did it take to fly a helicopter to Afghanistan. How much $ would it take to simply fuel it up and fly it back to the USA? It doesn't take a rocket surgeon.
No, i get it. The defense contractors want more money and this botched withdrawal gives them an excuse to produce all the hardware and vehicles and whatnot that's been abandoned in Afghanistan. Biden is a pro war, pro military industrial complex president.You will really have to ring the general so he can explain it to your satisfaction. With your seeming expertise in Marine fighting equipment logistics I think he'll be glad you rang so he can pick your brains.
And check with @Hans Blaster - he actually is a rocket surgeon.
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