More terrorism uncovered!

[ThatRobGuy]

No it doesn't. So if these people who are committing terrorist acts are not Muslims why don't the real Muslims stand up and say that the terrorists are not Muslims? That they are not following their founder Muhammad teachings? Why don't they do that, it would go a long way to help their cause?

Because that would force the politically correct crowd to actually admit that there are some fundamental differences between the world religions that contribute to varying levels of extremism.

Sam Harris (a well-known Atheist author sums it up pretty nicely)

 

[JGG]

I don't think how much less is specified, and isn't the point. The point is to love the Lord more than anything else, with all our heart. Also the fifth commandment says to honor your Father and Mother. Hating them in the common useage of the word doesn't seem very honoring. And again we are commanded to love our neighbor as ourselves.

Well, if we're going to start interpreting rather than taking literally what it says, I have to point out that Christ was obviously being sarcastic about that love your neighbor thing.

 

[Hank77]

Because that would force the politically correct crowd to actually admit that there are some fundamental differences between the world religions that contribute to varying levels of extremism.

Exactly. I have watched this video before and Ben can't seem to get it, as so many others don't. In one thread I posted a debate between two Muslims and an ex-Muslim atheist and I think a Jew. By the time the debate was over many in the audience had gotten it, that point that Ben cannot seem to wrap his head around.

 

[Black Dog]

You are just obnoxious, immature, and rude. I owe you no discussion until you can speak and behave as an adult.

I never said that they are not speaking out against terrorist groups or against violence, they have been doing that for years. They keep claiming that Islam is a peaceful religion.
I believe there are many people who identify themselves as Muslims that are peaceful people and do not want to kill anyone but that does not make Islam itself a religion that is non-violent, as much as they want it to be.

And my point is the exact same logic can be applied to Christians.

Which ones have said that these Sunnis are not MUSLIMS. Which ones have said that these Sunnis are NOT following the example of Muhammad, their prophet and teacher?
They cannot do that and be honest.

Of course they do, and of course they can. Just like Christians, virtually none of whom follow the example of Jesus.

I believe you are a Christian, correct? Matthew 19:21 Jesus said to him, "If you wish to be complete, go and sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me."

Have you sold all your possessions, and given the money to the poor? Can you tell me how many Christians at your neighborhood church have done so? I'm willing to bet none, including you. So virtually NO Christians follow the example of Jesus, but they all call themselves Christians.

 

[G54]

And my point is the exact same logic can be applied to Christians.



Of course they do, and of course they can. Just like Christians, virtually none of whom follow the example of Jesus.

I believe you are a Christian, correct? Matthew 19:21 Jesus said to him, "If you wish to be complete, go and sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me."

Have you sold all your possessions, and given the money to the poor? Can you tell me how many Christians at your neighborhood church have done so? I'm willing to bet none, including you. So virtually NO Christians follow the example of Jesus, but they all call themselves Christians.

You take that out of context. Jesus knew what it was that the rich young man loved most, and what he needed to free himself of to be a better man....money and possesions. In other words, we as Christians need to seek out that which holds us back from better serving Christ, and forsake that burden, whatever it may be. In this man's case it was his riches. Not necessarily an easy task, but one that will ultimately make us even richer in blessings.

 

[Hank77]

And my point is the exact same logic can be applied to Christians.



Of course they do, and of course they can. Just like Christians, virtually none of whom follow the example of Jesus.

I believe you are a Christian, correct? Matthew 19:21 Jesus said to him, "If you wish to be complete, go and sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me."

Have you sold all your possessions, and given the money to the poor? Can you tell me how many Christians at your neighborhood church have done so? I'm willing to bet none, including you. So virtually NO Christians follow the example of Jesus, but they all call themselves Christians.

Can you expound? Can you tell the whole story of what Jesus said and WHY He told THIS young man to sell his possessions?
What is your interpretation of this event?

The Apostle Peter owed a house, did Jesus tell HIM to sell his house? Why not? The Apostles owed boats, did Jesus tell them to sell their boats and follow Him? Why not?
There were disciples that own houses, did Paul tell them to sell their houses and follow Jesus? Why not?
In fact Peter tells Ananias that he did not need to lie about selling his property and giving all the money to the church. Peter says it belonged to him and he could do with it whatever he chose, but he was in trouble because he had lied about it.

 

[Hank77]

You take that out of context. Jesus knew what it was that the rich young man loved most, and what he needed to free himself of to be a better man....money and possesions. In other words, we as Christians need to seek out that which holds us back from better serving Christ, and forsake that burden, whatever it may be. In this man's case it was his riches. Not necessarily an easy task, but one that will ultimately make us even richer in blessings.

Now you beat me to it.

 

[G54]

Can you expound? Can you tell the whole story of what Jesus said and WHY He told THIS young man to sell his possessions?
What is your interpretation of this event?

The Apostle Peter owed a house, did Jesus tell HIM to sell his house? Why not? The Apostles owed boats, did Jesus tell them to sell their boats and follow Him? Why not?
There were disciples that own houses, did Paul tell them to sell their houses and follow Jesus? Why not?
In fact Peter tells Ananias that he did not need to lie about selling his property and giving all the money to the church. Peter says it belonged to him and he could do with it whatever he chose, but he was in trouble because he had lied about it.

Now you beat me to it.

You used good examples though. I hadnt thought of those!

 

[smaneck]

The Lord's Resistance Army, eh?

Which "lord" might they be referring to?

Jesus.

 

[smaneck]

I'm not trying to find a Christian group that is equal to ISIS, although I believe that these groups are "in the mail" so to speak. However, the poster stated that there was no such thing as a Christian terrorist group, and AOG certainly fits that definition. I can't get into that kind of casual frame of mind where circa 20 deaths is negligible somehow.

I would say that ISIS has the same relationship to Islam that the Taiping Rebellion had to Christianity. Both were apocalyptic death cults that grew out of these two religious traditions. In the case of the Taiping Rebellion it led to the deaths of at least 20 million. Let's hope the body count of ISIS doesn't go that high.

 

[smaneck]

No it doesn't. So if these people who are committing terrorist acts are not Muslims why don't the real Muslims stand up and say that the terrorists are not Muslims? That they are not following their founder Muhammad teachings? Why don't they do that, it would go a long way to help their cause?

They have been doing this all along but Faux News doesn't listen. Just google Muslim condemnations of terrorism and see how many hits you get.

 

[smaneck]

I have already pointed this out to another poster here who postured that the creation of the KKK was similarly attributed to Christians, but he corrected me, telling me my comments were ludicrous. Yup. He sure told me.

The KKK certainly claims to be Christian. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/21/virginia-kkk-fliers_n_5008647.html

 

[Ajax 777]

The KKK certainly claims to be Christian.

And Hitler claimed that the Aryan race was the "master race."

Both statements can be dismissed as absurd by a preponderance of the evidence, wouldn't you say?

 

[stamperben]

More proof that the man's act was terrorism.
Robert Dear Issues Disturbing Anti-Planned Parenthood Rant During Hearing

Robert Lewis Dear Jr., the man accused of killing three people and injuring 12 during a rampage at a Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood last month, declared himself to be “guilty” and a “warrior for babies” during a hearing on Wednesday.​

"Warrior for babies"? His own words!

 

[G54]

More proof that the man's act was terrorism.
Robert Dear Issues Disturbing Anti-Planned Parenthood Rant During Hearing

Robert Lewis Dear Jr., the man accused of killing three people and injuring 12 during a rampage at a Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood last month, declared himself to be “guilty” and a “warrior for babies” during a hearing on Wednesday.​

"Warrior for babies"? His own words!

I watched his outbursts on the news last night, and they showed his trashed little trailer in the middle of nowhere. I'm no psychiatrist but unless it's an act that dude is a loon. Kinda reminded me of the unibomber

 

[stamperben]

I watched his outbursts on the news last night, and they showed his trashed little trailer in the middle of nowhere. I'm no psychiatrist but unless it's an act that dude is a loon. Kinda reminded me of the unibomber

Any doubt that the unibomber was a terrorist?

 

[G54]

Any doubt that the unibomber was a terrorist?

He admitted as much. In April of 1995 he sent a letter to the NYT promising to "desist from terrorism" if they would publish his Manifesto.

 

[ecco]

And Hitler claimed that the Aryan race was the "master race."

And Hitler based his anti-semitism and the writings of Martin Luther.

 

[ecco]

I watched his outbursts on the news last night, and they showed his trashed little trailer in the middle of nowhere. I'm no psychiatrist but unless it's an act that dude is a loon. Kinda reminded me of the unibomber

His trailer with a cross on it. He considers himself to be a Christian doing god's work to stop the murder of babies.

If you think this man should be able to use a "loon" defense, then you have to allow Muslim terrorists to use that same defense. Is that what you want to believe, anyone who kills in God's name is just a loon?

 

[Armoured]

So, has the group that produced those misleading videos been charged with incitement yet?