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More Good News for Transparency

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by Fantine, May 22, 2019.

  1. Fantine

    Fantine Dona Quixote Supporter

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    Now TWO lower federal courts have ruled that Capital One and Deutsche Bank can share Trump's financial information with the House investigative committees. Although I believe there is one court to go before the Supremes, I think they would be very hard pressed to rule differently from the lower courts.

    And the lower courts didn't have to deliberate very much to come to their decision...it was so cut and dried, and Trump's objections so groundless, that the second court ruled in a single day.

    Thank goodness there are still judges with integrity out there.

    Judge says Deutsche Bank, Capital One can give Trump financial records to House Democrats
     
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  2. Stormy

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    Why is the President being harassed?
    I feel like the democrats are the enemy of the American people.

    I wonder if they will ever come to terms and accept the 2016 election?
    Or will their tantrums and tears be compounded by the reelection of President Trump in 2020?

    2016 Make America Great Again
    2020 Keep America Great
     
  3. Fantine

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    No more than Clinton, who was harassed for far fewer and far less serious reasons.

    To the left, we have Clinton, accused of lying about a fling with an intern...

    To the right, we have Trump, who has obstructed justice at least 10 times (to save himself) at the time of the Mueller Report--and at least twenty or thirty times since. To the right, we have Trump, who only escaped indictment recommendations because he was a sitting president. To the right, we have Trump, who has pandered and kow-towed to Russia so many times that even some Senate Republicans are fed up with it.
     
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  4. iluvatar5150

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    He's not being harassed; he's being investigated. He's being investigated because of his questionable behavior, his attempts to obstruct justice, his having surrounded himself with criminals, and his ongoing lack of transparency.

    If anybody is the enemy of the American people, it's the sycophants blindly defending Trump in spite of his obviously questionable behavior.
     
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  5. wing2000

    wing2000 E pluribus unum Supporter

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    ...which is probably real reason for the President's behavior today:

    President Trump Responds to Speaker's "Cover-Up" Charge | C-SPAN.org

    "Well, it turns I’m the most — and I think most of you would agree to this — I’m the most transparent president, probably in the history of this country."
     
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  6. SarahsKnight

    SarahsKnight Jesus Christ is this Knight's truth.

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    Those words sound awfully familiar ....


    And sorry, no one's picking on Trump in this. Come on.
     
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  7. Shiloh Raven

    Shiloh Raven "After all this time?" Always.

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    He's also refusing to release his tax returns, despite his campaign promise to release them. That's not the action of an innocent man who has nothing to hide. That's the reaction of a man who's trying to hide some damaging information about himself that could possibly incriminate him in a court of law.
     
  8. -Sasha-

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    What exactly is anyone hoping to gain from all this?
     
  9. wing2000

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    For starters, I want to know if our President is compromised by his extensive financial dealings abroad. That is a legitimate security concern. Is he representing his own interest or that of the United States?
     
  10. -Sasha-

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    How would seeing his bank records let you know if he is compromised? I assume we all know that he has had extensive financial dealings with people and corporations from other countries.
     
  11. wing2000

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    Follow the money trail....
     
  12. -Sasha-

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    And? Say it's discovered that he's been receiving large sums of money from Russian oligarchs for decades, and has used this money in his myriad business ventures. What then?
     
  13. Fantine

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    Impeach. Impeach. Impeach.
    They could call in their markers at any time. And Trump's actions are very much those of a supplicant staving off foreclosure.
     
  14. Shiloh Raven

    Shiloh Raven "After all this time?" Always.

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    Impeach him. If he's guilty of a federal crime, then prosecute him to the fullest extent of the law for committing that crime. I don't know if he'll be sentenced to prison or not because of his old age.
     
  15. Pommer

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    The President is a crook.
    Democrats are, by-and-large, Americans.

    He’s the President not a King.
    It’s going to be a rather LONG summer for Trump.
     
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  16. -Sasha-

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    How is it an impeachable offense to have received money from Russians and used it for business purposes, exactly?
     
  17. Messerve

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    That's what I'm curious about, too. I mean, if he had a business that dealt with Russia long before he became president, that wasn't a crime then, so how could it be now? Even getting campaign advice from Russians who ran a successful political campaign isn't illegal, to my knowledge.

    I don't blame anyone for investigating those ties since Russia isn't a friend of ours. However, those who most vehemently oppose Trump are the ones who don't hesitate to call any Russian a spy and an enemy. That's exactly what Russia wants to hear. They want war.

    I'm really tired of the empty name-calling and insults... It's all so childish.

    Goodnight everyone. :sleep:
     
  18. wing2000

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    It it's shown his financial interest influenced his decisions with regards to Russia (in this case) that would be an impeachable offense.
     
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  19. GoldenBoy89

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    Because he behaves just like a guilty criminal would in his situation.

    Sad. I think you and people who think like this are what's wrong with this country. I mean that in the kindest way possible. I don't think you personally are bad, just this line of thinking that our fellow Americans can be enemies among us just because they disagree on some policies. That view by its very nature is divisive. Who would want to work with people who see them as enemies?

    It's not about the 2016 election. When are you going to realize, we just don't have a very good guy running the country?
     
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  20. GoldenBoy89

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    To say: "I told ya so!"
     
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