Doesn't really matter how you get there - the end result is that you're on an entire different lump of rock then you've ever been on before. There isn't a single noise to be heard, the sky looks incredible. If you can't imagine that and think it would be amazing, you must be heartless.
I am glad that appeals to you. I would find it nice enough if I was teleported there, for coffee. But I am turned off by the whole astronaut thing myself.
If I am going to imagine things about the moon, I'll do it my way. Say, maybe, I get a ride in a royal UFO, something like the
Scepter, or flying sapphire throne of God in Eze. I chose to take a whole hour to get there, and sip fine wine, and have good conversation with Daniel, and Eve, and, Marilyn Monroe, and Elvis, and St Paul on the way. I ask some questions about things I have wondered, and get good answers.
Knowing that there is spiritual influence, I decide to ride down a portal to the inhabited area inside the moon. There, I meet departed relatives, and friends, and others, who somehow knew I was coming, and were there to meet me. I go with several of them for a ride on white horses. Flying on a horse would be interesting. We stop by a park to listen to some hot music for a bit, and dance. Then, it's off to have a nice dish of Greek food, or maybe Thai food. A swim in a pool at one of their mansions there goes quite well after that. Somewhat interesting, and taking a bit of getting used to, is how the clothes there are see through. A little like the greek goddesses, and such of old. Everyone there is young looking, as they are immortal, and have chosen the age they would prefer to remain, or, in some cases, return to look.
I could go on, but the thread really isn't about our imagining what the moon will be like.
Spirits are concepts? You mean they don't have a real existence apart from in people's minds? Well, I'd agree with that.
No, they are quite real, but, like your concept, they are not objects that are physical.
Well, it does for as long as you don't present any evidence. For the same reason as it cuts out that invisible elephant in your wardrobe.
But it does so only in your mind, see, cause in reality that conceptual 'razor' doesn't deal in things spiritual at all. Since neither does science, nothing is cut from something that never had what you imagine was cut in the first place!!!
Please, if you have evidence, state your case. But you've had 19 pages to do so and still haven't so I'm not holding my breath!
If I have evidence? Try and retain some of the pages you read, things that are not solid have no solid evidence. The spiritual evidences are out of the fishbowl of science of the pitiful mere present natural.
How do you know that it is not an invisible pink unicorn that caused the ball to fall?
Because laws are known, and I assume they work just fine, as God set them up to work in this temporary state universe. Besides, I think unicorns are clever enough to have better things to do, than pull pranks.
Sorry dad, but Ockham's razor is a philosophical tool, nothing explicitly to do with physics. It finds applications most frequently in science, but also in philosophy of mind and of religion, as well as other places.
A tool that cannot be used out of the fishbowl. Keep it real.
You can't just chuck out one of most fundamental bits of epistemology known to modern men on a whim.
Yes I can, when they try to whack spirits in the moon with the silly thing!
When one feels spiritual there is no necessity for there to be anything spiritual at work.
How would you know? Maybe there is. Either way, you can't speak from knowledge there, just guesswork.
A spiritual feeling can be a purely physical feeling of awe or something similar. That is just how the word is used.
That is one weak, and improper use of the word, yes. But not the main one, or best one.
So how do you know whether a physical effect is caused by something spiritual or physical?
I usually look for the spiritual influence to be spiritual, and physical influences to be physical in nature. Then, I work it from there.
I'll throw it out there anyway - prove that, on March 18th, 1794, an invisible pink unicorn did not reverse gravity for 10 seconds, throwing everyone into the air, reverse it back again, and wipe everyone's memories of the event.
No spirit has the power to do anything save God grants it. Major spiritual events likely would have some precedent, or known motis operandi from the history of believers.
Your invention falls short on all counts.
Just like I don't worry about meteors or comets hitting the earth. We are protected from real danger. Earth is forever.
No, it was not just the beauty of the moon - but also of the earth and of the sky.
OK, so there is a lot to be said for the beauty of creation. It cannot nullify real spiritual influences from real spirits, now can it, though?!
