Are they a secret then, or what?
No, like the resurrection. Very well witnessed, and known. The presence of God in many of our lives is well known by us. The peace that passes understanding, the gifts we all seem to get, the provision, protection, and fulfilled prophesies, inner changes, etc etc. It is no secret, what God has done. It was not, and is not done in a closet.
Hey, you put the issue on the table already; whether or not spirits exist under the earth's surface. I say they don't, and eagerly await your reasoning saying that they do.
Well, what reason can man have, that can't even see spirits on the surface?? You must leave it unknown. Work according to your abilities.
Those that believe the bible can know from that.
Php 2:10 - That at the name of Jesus every
knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things
under the earth;
Re 5:3 - And no
man in heaven, nor in earth, neither
under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.
Re 5:13 - And every
creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and
under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.
I don't make this stuff up.
People claim to have seen them. That means pretty much nothing. I want something a bit better than that.
Ask God, who knows, maybe you will get some peeks? If not, maybe at least some inner realizations.
I have looked at the sun; therefore yes.
OK, and so the reactions take place on the part of the sun we see with our naked eyes, according to you. Fine. I would urge caution there, I heard it was best never to look directly at the sun.
In the case of nuclear reactions, we have photographs of the results, destroyed cities, radiation poisoning.
Well, in the case of angels busting apostles out of the clink, and the resurrection, and feeding thousands with a few loaves and fishes, there were no cameras yet. Many have drawn it, though.
In the case of spirits we have none of this observable evidence.
That tells us they operate outside our observation sphere at the moment. Our fishbowl. You will have to come to grips with that, it is pretty basic.
Back to school, dad. Today we're doing English, and the topic is tenses. It was very widespread. The Egyptian and Greek cultures, among others, were all about underworlds.
Nowadays, not so good.
No, millions and millions believe in spirits under the earth in the Christian world alone.
It might give a reason to look into it, but never a reason to believe. Never.
The expansion of space, as perceived by science at least, is an indication of some things. As you point out, not a reason to believe. Neither is running a computer simulation backwards, every which way, to cook up the big whack creation of the moon a reason to believe. Neither is some modest evolving a reason to say it started in the Pond.
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