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Moon light - the word of God vs falsely so called science

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From the rocket yes . Also the landing arms spotless as well.
Just watched the last minutes of the flight of the Eagle as it descended to the surface. In the last several hundred feet of the descent, you can clearly see dust being dispersed/ejected by the effect of the exhaust - the velocity was such that it was essentially going horizontally.

You should watch it. You can really see it at the 14:30 minute mark and beyond.
 
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Gemini 12 ? and a Jet 70,000 ft high
Looks the same height. Clouds same size

Buzz in space.jpg


17,000 ft.jpg
 
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Well you call it regolith if you like . Yes we all know that the rocket was far less powerful than the one used with the launch. And that the gravity on the moon is no doubt much less. But Pre moon NASA docs do say differently of what the landing on the moon would be like along with many others .And what of the +250 degree temperatures up there? So the dust just falls down all around the Luna module but not on it. Ok. That’s what one would call precision dust falling I guess.
What did you actually expect? That it would be caked with it?

Of course, in all your research you must have read about the fact that the dust was a pain in the neck.

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Oh and the dust hoax has been discussed. You must not have researched very well

The Apollo Moon Hoax: Why Is There No Lunar Dust on the Lander’s Footpads?
 
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If you studied the subject you would find that was not the case. You are expecting the same sort of reaction that we have here on Earth. First the force of gravity is six times higher here which would mean one would need six times the thrust here, second there is no atmosphere on the Moon. There was soil displacement You should check out Moonbase Clavius. Here is a link to this sort of charge:

Clavius: Gravity - dust
Subduction I did read the article : whilst true that our gravity is much stronger than that of the moon, and that would mean that the lunar module rocket would not have to produce the full thrust of all its rocket when attempting to land. Still with the less gravity factor you would expect to see a lot more soil or regolith disturbance. Land a drone apon the beach and it’s covered with a certain amount sand residue from the blow: it’s just a normal reaction with most things when you do. Now the drone has 4 small propellers above it: the lunar module has a rocket enigine that produces much more power than a small drone ever could: also the lunar module power source is from beneath. As to no air being present in space that still doesn’t nullify the power of cause and effect, especially when you release the trigger on that rocket for it to be able to blow and express its power. The Apollo landings all seem to be different. Some did so manually when landing while others had to rely on their auto instrument system to guide them down because of the low visibility caused by the DUST as mentioned on the site you quoted. Yet with all those missions we always find those lunar pads miraculously spotless and clean. So I’m still not convinced.
 
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Yet with all those missions we always find those lunar pads miraculously spotless and clean.

Who inspected them? On what basis are you declaring them to be ‘spotless’?
It’s worth thinking about how little information you’re basing your conclusions on. How extensive is your knowledge of how lunar dust ‘should’ behave in the conditions described? What process have you gone through to conclude what it ‘should’ or ‘shouldn’t’ do? NASA weren’t sure what was going to happen, there were fears that what is now known to be regolith was actually thick dust that the lunar module might sink into.
What do you actually know about the different things that you mention that allows you to calculate what should happen?
 
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How extensive is your knowledge of how lunar dust ‘should’ behave in the conditions described?

Here is dust in action. To Terran eyes, it falls very quickly:

 
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Who inspected them? On what basis are you declaring them to be ‘spotless’?
It’s worth thinking about how little information you’re basing your conclusions on. How extensive is your knowledge of how lunar dust ‘should’ behave in the conditions described? What process have you gone through to conclude what it ‘should’ or ‘shouldn’t’ do? NASA weren’t sure what was going to happen, there were fears that what is now known to be regolith was actually thick dust that the lunar module might sink into.
What do you actually know about the different things that you mention that allows you to calculate what should happen?
By looking at the photo’s and footage . Just as anyone else does and has the right to do, including yourself. Yes NASA was concerned about the accumulation of moon dust and how thick that crust would be. They thought that the Luna module might become submerged or engulfed . As to calculations there is also a thing called common sense . Your talking about a lot of moon dust: doesn’t matter how quickly it falls there should still be dust residue all over those landing pads. Unless we are dealing in precision fallout which I did mention in a earlier post.
 
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Well yes dust in action . As with anywhere . The Luna module was in a stationary position not driving around like the rover.

When it landed, the Apollo 11 Lunar Module was flying sideways.
 
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When it landed, the Apollo 11 Lunar Module was flying sideways.

And no sensible person can doubt that Apollo 11 was actually on the Moon.

The Australian CSIRO got TV signals from the Moon, and the stuff Apollo 11 left behind is still visible on the Moon's surface.
 
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"Common sense," unfortunately, is based entirely on your lifetime experience of how dust behaves on Earth.
And of course yours wouldn’t be I guess. Not that you need a life times experience. Just drive down a desert road sometime
 
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And no sensible person can doubt that Apollo 11 was actually on the Moon.

The Australian CSIRO got TV signals from the Moon, and the stuff Apollo 11 left behind is still visible on the Moon's surface.
Radagast we do know some about The supposed Nasa moon landing and their connection with Australia. You might like to check out Jarod Whites information on that. Moonfaker is his u tube site. You say No sensible person can doubt that Apolla went to the moon. Your entitled to your opinion. That would make you a sensible person I guess. I’m sure with time we shall all be made to believe that 1+1 =3
 
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You might like to check out Jarod whites information on that. Moonfaker is his u tube site.

Please don't rely on nonsensical YouTube channels.

Like I said, the CSIRO got TV signals from the Moon, and the stuff Apollo 11 left behind is still visible on the Moon's surface.
 
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By looking at the photo’s and footage . Just as anyone else does and has the right to do, including yourself. Yes NASA was concerned about the accumulation of moon dust and how thick that crust would be. They thought that the Luna module might become submerged or engulfed . As to calculations there is also a thing called common sense . Your talking about a lot of moon dust: doesn’t matter how quickly it falls there should still be dust residue all over those landing pads. Unless we are dealing in precision fallout which I did mention in a earlier post.

I'm not arguing against your right to look at some photos. From the photos here though I don't see how you can tell if they have any dust on them or not, are you referring to some close up shots or something like that you have seen? What do you think would cause bone-dry dust on the moon to adhere in bigger quantities to metal surfaces in a way that could be seen from a few metres away? What would cause dust blown away from the landing site to cloud and settle as it would in earth's gravity/earth's atmosphere (etc)?
 
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Radagast we do know some about The supposed Nasa moon landing and their connection with Australia. You might like to check out Jarod Whites information on that. Moonfaker is his u tube site. You say No sensible person can doubt that Apolla went to the moon. Your entitled to your opinion. That would make you a sensible person I guess. I’m sure with time we shall all be made to believe that 1+1 =3

One thing you could look into is the technology required to actually shoot anything like a convincing set up of the moon landing, as some claim happened. That kind of technology simply didn't exist in the 60s, or for a long time later. For one thing you would need a truly enormous fixed uni-directional light source. Anyway it is not difficult to find out about, if you look for real information rather than relying on some guy on youtube. Anyone can create an argument based on reduced data coupled with assumptions about things they don't want to take the time to find out about.

Before the first bicycle was made and ridden people thought, quite sensibly, that a 2 wheeled vehicle would just fall over - it was just common sense. People thought that passengers travelling in open carriages pulled by the first steam engines, travelling at the enourmous speed of 16 mph, would asphixiate - how could they possibly breath the air whipping past them at high speed? - common sense. Common sense and things that actually happen are not necessarily connnected.
 
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I'm not arguing against your right to look at some photos. From the photos here though I don't see how you can tell if they have any dust on them or not, are you referring to some close up shots or something like that you have seen? What do you think would cause bone-dry dust on the moon to adhere in bigger quantities to metal surfaces in a way that could be seen from a few metres away? What would cause dust blown away from the landing site to cloud and settle as it would in earth's gravity/earth's atmosphere (etc)?
Tom I do think the dust does acquire a liking for almost everthing , except for water. And not to worry I’m sure I would find some dust on you as well. Maybe your shoes maybe your suite or your books : ) As to being bone dry: yes I’m sure the moon would be that way. But it never stopped the dust from dirtying the astronauts uniform and boots nor their go go cart that was throwing dust everywhere as it would do apon the earth . I’m sure you would find dust on the lunar lander as well if you searched hard enough. Just not in the qualities you would expect from a lunar rocket landing. You say ( what would cause dust blown away from the landing site to cloud and and than settle as it would in earths gravity and atmosphere. ) Tom that’s exactly the point just how far would all of that moon dust and rumble have traveled from the actual lunar landing site. And with a very low gravity and no atmosphere unlike us here apon earth. Yet we do see plenty of dust around the window of the eagle from the film of the 1st landing
 
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Yet with all those missions we always find those lunar pads miraculously spotless and clean. So I’m still not convinced.
Wow...

You didn't do your research.
Or relied on the lies of conspiracy nuts on youtube.

So, you find the moon landings to be hoaxes because of some trivialities.

Tell me - does the fact that the events surrounding the resurrection as described in the bible do not match each other make you reject it?

Does the fact that there is no corroboration for the earthquakes, darkness, or dead rising from the graves anywhere make you doubt the story?

I'm guessing no....
 
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