Moon light - the word of God vs falsely so called science

[tas8831]

Watched a video of a guy claiming that NASA is hiding the ruins of an ancient civilization on Mars that was destroyed by some massive forces like in a war or something.

He 'proved' this by taking the archived photos of Mars sent from the various landers and running them through all kinds of filters and altering the contrast and tint and such - and he not only freely admitted this, but did so live on his video. You see, he claims NASA purposefully makes the images blander and dimmer so as to hide the TRUTH!

So, in his manipulations, he turns the flat face of a boulder from a dull reddish to an amazing shiny silver! OBVIOUSLY this was an alien spaceship! How else could it have a flat surface - and when appropriately altered via photo-processing software - be silver!

The video went on and on for at least 30 minutes, with him pulling up raw data, running it through all sorts of color and contrast and brightness and hue filters and such, each time, amazingly "showing" what he set out to 'prove' - that all these exposed rocks on Mars were really wrecked spaceships and the remains of large office buildings and the like.

Where I live, there are several areas where we have landslides every now and then. Back when Hurricane Irene hit, we had a lot of flooding and landslides. A few of these, just the ones I was able to see from the highway, exposed lots of shale and such, some of which had slid down hillsides. Flat, shiny, and when wet, had a silvery glint to it.

These were clearly not rocks at all - but the remains of spaceships!

 

[Ophiolite]

Radagast we do know some about The supposed Nasa moon landing and their connection with Australia. You might like to check out Jarod Whites information on that. Moonfaker is his u tube site. You say No sensible person can doubt that Apolla went to the moon. Your entitled to your opinion. That would make you a sensible person I guess. I’m sure with time we shall all be made to believe that 1+1 =3

Kate, I see you applied a "Funny" award to one of Radagast's posts. You and I both know that the post was not humorous, nor was it meant to be. You appear to be using the award to mock his post. That is against forum rules. Radagast it too much of gentleman to Report the offence. I'm not a gentleman. I ask you, respectfully, to remove the award. Thank you.

And, by the way, did it never occur to you that the same rocket blast blowing up the dust was also blowing it away from the lander?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Subduction I did read the article : whilst true that our gravity is much stronger than that of the moon, and that would mean that the lunar module rocket would not have to produce the full thrust of all its rocket when attempting to land. Still with the less gravity factor you would expect to see a lot more soil or regolith disturbance. Land a drone apon the beach and it’s covered with a certain amount sand residue from the blow: it’s just a normal reaction with most things when you do. Now the drone has 4 small propellers above it: the lunar module has a rocket enigine that produces much more power than a small drone ever could: also the lunar module power source is from beneath. As to no air being present in space that still doesn’t nullify the power of cause and effect, especially when you release the trigger on that rocket for it to be able to blow and express its power. The Apollo landings all seem to be different. Some did so manually when landing while others had to rely on their auto instrument system to guide them down because of the low visibility caused by the DUST as mentioned on the site you quoted. Yet with all those missions we always find those lunar pads miraculously spotless and clean. So I’m still not convinced.

Did you read the link that I provided? You are making a few errors. First the acceleration of objects from a jet is due to the thrust. So if the gravity was a sixth of Earth's the thrust lowered thrust would have decreased the acceleration of dust. That also means it would not have "dug" as deeply as the Earth. You are also forgetting that you are working in an atmosphere. That causes a different sort of dispersal. And last and most important of all there was dust raised up during the landings. But unlike on Earth it is not going to stay aloft. Even though it will fall at one sixth of the acceleration here it will begin to fall immediately. It will arc just as if it were a thrown ball rather than a piece of dust buoyed up by the atmosphere.

In fact the lunar dust is irrefutable evidence that they were on the Moon. It is very hard to make a vacuum chamber of any size at all. Even today the largest vacuum chamber has a floor about 10 meters in diameter. If you watch the Lunar Rover driving over a much larger area you can see all of the particles arc up and down in perfect parabolas. That will only occur in a vacuum. Like there is on the Moon.

Tell me, did you expect the dust cloud to hang around like it does no Earth?

EDIT: I went back to the article and saw that they make the same argument that I have for years:

"The behavior of the dust in the video and film taken on the lunar surface is one of the most compelling reasons we have for believing it was shot in a vacuum. The dust is clearly dry, but it falls immediately to the surface and does not form clouds."

I grew up driving on country roads so I know how dry gravel can cause a rooster tail that hangs up for over a minute. In fact on certain corners that just might have happened "accidentally". The Lunar dust falls immediately. That just does not happen in an atmosphere. Heck, it is the middle of summer. You can test this for yourself. Power slide around a corner on a dry gravel road. Not only is it a blast, but for some reason the rooster tail can be hilarious.

And to quote from the article again, some of the sites did have a problem from dust:

"However, no less an authority than Tom Kelly, Grumman's chief design and manufacturing engineer on the lunar module, has a very different opinion:

"He [Apollo 12 commander Pete Conrad] performed the final one hundred feet of descent primarily on instruments, since his view of the surface was largely obscured by dust kicked up by the descent engine's exhaust." [Kelly01, p. 223]"

It also mentioned that Apollo 15 had to do an instrument landing. I hope that answers your questions. But you were polite and if you ask any more I will gladly answer them for you.

 

[d taylor]

Doesn't look the same at all.

Where do you think Gemini 12 went?

Your desperation is showing.

Then you need to improve your ability to see and compare because it is lacking quite a good bit.

Buzz flew over the earth in a balloon.

I am not desperate, it does not matter to me, if people want to keep believing a lie let them believe it, i loose no sleep over what you believe.

The only sad part is this is the wasted money used to keep this going. They could have at least done something constructive like put all electrical lines,etc.. under ground.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Then you need to improve your ability to see and compare because it is lacking quite a good bit.

Buzz flew over the earth in a balloon.

I am not desperate, it does not matter to me, if people want to keep believing a lie let them believe it, i loose no sleep over what you believe.

The only sad part is this is the wasted money used to keep this going. They could have at least done something constructive like put all electrical lines,etc.. under ground.

That was one quick balloon

Seriously, the lunar dust in videos, especially those involving the Lunar Rover prove that you are wrong.

 

[d taylor]

That was one quick balloon

Seriously, the lunar dust in videos, especially those involving the Lunar Rover prove that you are wrong.

I believe you have the wrong person, i was never speaking about lunar dust.

And i would not speak about lunar dust because lunar dust not not exist.

 

[lasthero]

I believe you have the wrong person, i was never speaking about lunar dust.

And i would not speak about lunar dust because lunar dust not not exist.

I mean...it does. There is a moon. It does have dust.

 

[d taylor]

I mean...it does. There is a moon. It does have dust.

So you have been there and know because you have seen and have held moon dust on the moon.

 

[Speedwell]

I mean...it does. There is a moon. It does have dust.

No, it's all a fake, a worldwide conspiracy involving the entire scientific community, the defense and aerospace establishments of the world's nations and numerous large corporations to deny a dubious interpretation of scripture held to by a tiny eccentric minority of Christians. Don't ask why.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I believe you have the wrong person, i was never speaking about lunar dust.

And i would not speak about lunar dust because lunar dust not not exist.

You deny the space program. The Apollo Project was part of it. That man landed on the Moon is has been more than proven. All you have is denial and an inability to understand rather basic science.

 

[Subduction Zone]

So you have been there and know because you have seen and have held moon dust on the moon.

Another person that needs to get into a shorter river.

 

[d taylor]

You deny the space program. The Apollo Project was part of it. That man landed on the Moon is has been more than proven. All you have is denial and an inability to understand rather basic science.

You want to prove me wrong simple get one of your great scientist to photo the moon out in space (during the day) from earth. Surrounded by the black of space and not the blue of the sky seen during the day.

That should be easy, since they can send back images from billions of miles away. Surely they have the equipment to look past the sky into outer space during our day light hours.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You want to prove me wrong simple get one of your great scientist to photo the moon out in space (during the day) from earth. Surrounded by the black of space and not the blue of the sky seen during the day.

That should be easy, since they can send back images from billions of miles away. Surely they have the equipment to look past the sky into outer space during our day light hours.

I already proved you wrong. That you do not understand how I did it is not really my problem.

Why would you expect a photo of the Moon from the Earth during daytime have black around it anyway? Do you not understand that sunlight is scattered by the atmosphere. Do you not understand that the sky is blue? A ridiculous demand only proves ignorance of the one making it.

Or are you asking for a picture of the Moon from the International Space Station?

 

[d taylor]

I already proved you wrong. That you do not understand how I did it is not really my problem.

Why would you expect a photo of the Moon from the Earth during daytime have black around it anyway? Do you not understand that sunlight is scattered by the atmosphere. Do you not understand that the sky is blue? A ridiculous demand only proves ignorance of the one making it.

Or are you asking for a picture of the Moon from the International Space Station?

You have only proved me wrong in your science lies (it is true because science says so) nothing you state is an actual truth of God's creation.

 

[Subduction Zone]

That didn't take long. I found a ton of them. Here is one where the full Moon is about to set.

Now we will have the typical "photo shop" denial.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Another:

 

[Subduction Zone]

You have only proved me wrong in your science lies (it is true because science says so) nothing you state is an actual truth of God's creation.

No, and please, claiming that someone lies without being able to demonstrate it is a breaking of the Ninth Commandment. All you have been able to demonstrate is an ignorance of reality.

The videos of how dust falls on the Moon refutes your claims because such video could not have been faked by the technology of the time. It is clear evidence that we went to the Moon and you have no response for it.

Tell me, why do you think that scientists would lie about such an event? It does not harm Christianity. It only harms your false beliefs. There is no conspiracy against Christianity by scientists. In fact many scientists are Christians.

 

[lasthero]

So you have been there and know because you have seen and have held moon dust on the moon.

No. I haven't been to a lot of places that I know plenty about, however.

 

[Subduction Zone]

No. I haven't been to a lot of places that I know plenty about, however.

Australia is a myth. People walking upside down, animals with wallets. Who can believe those insane claims

 

[Tinker Grey]

*snip*

Great pics!