Moon it's own source of light

[Shrewd Manager]

Androids may beat them to the pool. One is already a citizen of Sow D Rabia.

Do Sowdee android women dream of electric burkhas?

 

[Jonathan Walkerin]

So how do people explain solar eclipse when the moon blocks the sun and the moon we see is dark instead of giving light ?

 

[Kate30]

I'm going to jump on the '63 percent' number as Masonic silly code. Obviously the claim as to just that portion of a city being destroyed is impossible to make out factually, and the 3 sixes coding stands out like a problem stain on a masonic apron. See what other nuggets you can sleuth out.



I think Galileo and Kepler made some inroads, and after 1666 (more Masonic silly code, the unhygienically-named 'Annus Mirabilis') the year Newton's De Principiis was published, the heliocentrists had turned the tide. It was apparently the alleged discovery of stellar parallax in 1838 that was touted as the decisive victory (even though parallax can occur in a geocentric coordinate system).

But the Jesuits were wandering around the Orient well before that with their globes and pushing heliocentrism I believe. I could be wrong - it does happen with alarming regularity when I depart from the Bible!



Nagasaki, as in THE Nagasaki! Coincidink? I think not. The occult of the name means (I vaguely recall) city of serpents. From the 'Naga' of Hinduism. It was payback time! Perhaps suggesting that the Martyrs story was a fabrication, idk.



It's all a little fishy when it comes to RCC business imho. Maybe the Pope's casting the net out the other side of the boat? As long as he cleans his rods and reels, I guess.

• Shrewd Manager your going to jump on the 63 percent destruction of Imabari because it’s hard to factually prove Ok. Instead you say it’s just a Masonic code. Well sometimes yes. But generally numerology and secret codes are all over the place unless of course your truly the recipient of the meaning . I’m wondering which would be more factual the photographic evidence or the Masonic apron you mentioned. Which be merely a societal and family tradition; I do remember as a child that Father and other relatives used to have. So did leave me ever so curious to what was locked away in that black suitcase. Of course it not stay a locked mystery for long, as curiosity is one of our better traits don’t you think : ) the apron was much colourful and did make a nice dress made me feel like a Egyptian goddess . And the suitcase did come with a bible and other literature too. So Jabba jabba Jabulon to you As to the globe trotting jesuits the challenges of missionary work I guess: it does take one all over the globe : ) As to Nagasaki being the city serpents or dragons I do think the whole of Oriental Asia has that memory deeply embedded in our cultural heritage from the ancient of days and not only Nagasaki. Perhaps you would like to enter via the red door to meet the red dragon yourself . : )

 

[Kate30]

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[Rick Otto]

You obviously are unable to understand the vast difference of distance between the moon and you and the sun and you.

You obviously are unaware distance doesn't change angles of light travel.

 

[Shrewd Manager]

• Shrewd Manager your going to jump on the 63 percent destruction of Imabari because it’s hard to factually prove Ok. Instead you say it’s just a Masonic code. Well sometimes yes. But generally numerology and secret codes are all over the place unless of course your truly the recipient of the meaning . I’m wondering which would be more factual the photographic evidence or the Masonic apron you mentioned. Which be merely a societal and family tradition; I do remember as a child that Father and other relatives used to have. So did leave me ever so curious to what was locked away in that black suitcase. Of course it not stay a locked mystery for long, as curiosity is one of our better traits don’t you think : ) the apron was much colourful and did make a nice dress made me feel like a Egyptian goddess . And the suitcase did come with a bible and other literature too. So Jabba jabba Jabulon to you As to the globe trotting jesuits the challenges of missionary work I guess: it does take one all over the globe : ) As to Nagasaki being the city serpents or dragons I do think the whole of Oriental Asia has that memory deeply embedded in our cultural heritage from the ancient of days and not only Nagasaki. Perhaps you would like to enter via the red door to meet the red dragon yourself . : )

Seeing as you put it like that Kate, the Oriental golden lung on red door is hard to resist. I certainly hope it leaves the key under the mat. As being of part Welsh extraction I'm not entirely unfamiliar with the lofty blood red dragon insignia. Chinese dragons also fight for cabbages I believe. Plus is that a peacock embroidered below?

So, Nefertiti, you think I'm gilding the lily in connecting the Jesuit dots through Nagasaki and the coding of Imabari's damage figures? Maybe you think I've been drinking too much of the tepid Naga saki. I'd hate to spill any on that heirloom apron. Or the masonic bible for that matter. It is highly flammable stuff.

Jesuits, Masons, always with furtive manoeuvres in dark corners. Solomon followed that curiosity just a little too far and came up dry. Peer into the dragon's maw and you might get swallowed whole! Better Daniel who fed the dragon a hairball to fix its wagon or St George who cleft it in twain with the sword. What say you?

 

[Rick Otto]

Why is the majority of the moon concealed in black shadow if it emits it’s own light? That makes no sense.

The question actually makes very little sense. It seems to assume that the illumination must be completely on or completely off.

 

[Rick Otto]

So your theory is that the moon is dark because the lights are tuned off on that part?

Not "her theory" but "a theory".
But I am impressed that you were able to imagine that it might not be one gigantic light bulb.

 

[Kate30]

Seeing as you put it like that Kate, the Oriental golden lung on red door is hard to resist. I certainly hope it leaves the key under the mat. As being of part Welsh extraction I'm not entirely unfamiliar with the lofty blood red dragon insignia. Chinese dragons also fight for cabbages I believe. Plus is that a peacock embroidered below?

So, Nefertiti, you think I'm gilding the lily in connecting the Jesuit dots through Nagasaki and the coding of Imabari's damage figures? Maybe you think I've been drinking too much of the tepid Naga saki. I'd hate to spill any on that heirloom apron. Or the masonic bible for that matter. It is highly flammable stuff.

Jesuits, Masons, always with furtive manoeuvres in dark corners. Solomon followed that curiosity just a little too far and came up dry. Peer into the dragon's maw and you might get swallowed whole! Better Daniel who fed the dragon a hairball to fix its wagon or St George who cleft it in twain with the sword. What say you?

Shrewd Manager I do believe your Welsh ones were initiated into the ways of the dragon via the Romans who had one of their oriental legions stationed there. And then St George was added later to convert and save all damsels and people’s from the ways of the Dragon. Dragons do fight for many reasons. As to the peacock being down lower it’s there for a reason. As to sweet Nefertiti she does sit as a Queen and is staying right out of this : ) As to drinking too much. Shrewd Manager not to worry some cultures are very accommodating you can even enjoy a chat with the Dragon over a good cup of green tea if you would like : ) Peer into the dragons mouth and you might get swollowed whole. Haha. Well if it be a dragon lady surely YES. As to the masons and jesuits and like all religions. Well just like Judaism at the time of our Lord they do all eventually see infiltration and corruption over time. I do see your point: The jesuits and their history is some long: Some good some bad. But there are some occultist histories that go back much farther than that. I think from the beginning of the world and to the very heavens itself.

 

[SPF]

I'm still confused as to what the mechanism is that actually causes the moon to be illuminated or not? I'm also confused as to why if the moon is its own light source why God is doing it in such a way so as to deceive us?

What I mean is that the moon behaves as if it reflects the sun's light. The phases of the moon suggest it reflects the sun's light. The fact that there is a "dark side" which is always coincidentally faces away from the sun suggests it reflects the sun's light. The way eclipses work suggest the moon reflects the sun's light. The earthshine suggests the moon reflects the earth's light.

100% of the way the moon behaves, even down to the beautiful photographs that d_taylor provided us showing elevated peaks on the moon still managing to reflect the sun's light where the divide between the light and the dark is... suggest... the moon reflects the sun's light.

So if the moon doesn't reflect the sun's light, and by some purely supernatural method does manage to illuminate itself - it's done so as to deceive us.

 

[comana]

The question actually makes very little sense. It seems to assume that the illumination must be completely on or completely off.

Yes, it only makes sense that it would be completely illuminated if it gives its own light. As we do not observe that then the only logical conclusion is that it does not give its own light.

 

[d taylor]

A solar eclipse is the same as a new moon

New moon same as eclipse but no shadow

Sciences lie answer:
This doesn't happen because the Moon's orbit around Earth is tilted 5 degrees to Earth's orbit around the Sun.

 

[Rick Otto]

Yes, it only makes sense that it would be completely illuminated if it gives its own light. As we do not observe that then the only logical conclusion is that it does not give its own light.

It makes sense from a limited concept of light producing technology and uses therefor.
So in that extremely narrow hypothetical sense, we completely agree!

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Yes, it only makes sense that it would be completely illuminated if it gives its own light. As we do not observe that then the only logical conclusion is that it does not give its own light.

What about the lowly firefly? Sometimes it gives its own light (shines bright in the night) . Sometimes not. Yet it is not completely illuminated even when shining...

Same with many creatures in the ocean ! (love channel 11, OETA, PBS for their awesome videos)

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I'm also confused as to why if the moon is its own light source why God is doing it in such a way so as to deceive us?

There is not even one tiniest particle of deception in any of Yahuweh's (God's) Ways or creation,
except in animals/ creatures/ men as noted throughout history.

i.e. on the forum is illustrated in countless topics the deception by men, and from men.

Yahuweh is not deceiving anyone, unless it is in harmony with all His Purpose , Plan, and Salvation in Christ Jesus, and showing forth His Unlimited Wisdom to the angels in heaven for eternity!

(remembering He sent or allowed a deception in the enemy army, so they thought a great army was attacking/surrounding them, and they all ran off even though they greatly outnumbered God's people at that time and place (i.e. without God's Help, His people would have suffered great loss of life and property, et al) .... )

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

So how do people explain solar eclipse when the moon blocks the sun and the moon we see is dark instead of giving light ?

I think you mean how do honest people with knowledge of the truth explain that ?

 

[Rick Otto]

A solar eclipse is the same as a new moon

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New moon same as eclipse but no shadow

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Sciences lie answer:
This doesn't happen because the Moon's orbit around Earth is tilted 5 degrees to Earth's orbit around the Sun.

“The Newtonian hypothesis involves the necessity of the Sun, in the case of a lunar eclipse, being on the opposite side of a globular earth, to cast its shadow on the Moon: but, since eclipses of the Moon have taken place with both the Sun and the Moon above the horizon, it follows that it cannot be the shadow of the Earth that eclipses the Moon, and that the theory is a blunder.” -William Carpenter, “100 Proofs the Earth is Not a Globe” (57)

“According to the globular theory, a lunar eclipse occurs when the sun, earth, and moon are in a direct line; but it is on record that since about the fifteenth century over fifty eclipses have occurred while both sun and moon have been visible above the horizon.” -F.H. Cook, “The Terrestrial Plane”


“That the eclipsor of the moon is a shadow at all is assumption–no proof whatever is offered. That the moon receives her light from the sun, and that therefore her surface is darkened by the earth intercepting the sun’s light, is not proved. It is not proved that the earth moves in an orbit round the sun, and therefore, by being in different positions, conjunction of sun, earth, and moon, ‘Day some-times occur.’

The contrary has been clearly proved–that the moon is not eclipsed by a shadow; that she is self-luminous, and not merely a reflector of solar light, and therefore could not possibly be obscured or eclipsed by a shadow from any object whatever; and that the earth is devoid of motion, either on axes or in an orbit through space.

Hence to call that an argument for the earth’s rotundity, where every necessary proposition is only assumed, and in relation to which direct and practical evidence to the contrary is abundant, is to stultify the judgment and every other reasoning faculty.” -Dr. Samuel Rowbotham, “Zetetic Astronomy, Earth Not a Globe!” (301)

 

[Kaon]

I'm still confused as to what the mechanism is that actually causes the moon to be illuminated or not? I'm also confused as to why if the moon is its own light source why God is doing it in such a way so as to deceive us?

What I mean is that the moon behaves as if it reflects the sun's light. The phases of the moon suggest it reflects the sun's light. The fact that there is a "dark side" which is always coincidentally faces away from the sun suggests it reflects the sun's light. The way eclipses work suggest the moon reflects the sun's light. The earthshine suggests the moon reflects the earth's light.

100% of the way the moon behaves, even down to the beautiful photographs that d_taylor provided us showing elevated peaks on the moon still managing to reflect the sun's light where the divide between the light and the dark is... suggest... the moon reflects the sun's light.

So if the moon doesn't reflect the sun's light, and by some purely supernatural method does manage to illuminate itself - it's done so as to deceive us.

We have deceived ourselves with our dogma, logic, reason and faith in man-made systems. Don't blame the confusion on the Most High God.

There are are a couple of answers that are unacceptable to the population (both skeptics and alleged seekers). That is a limitation of human intellect, not a demerit on the Most High God.