modest dress code

[submisive2him]

I would like to know what all of you think about modest dress I am new at this whole forum thing and I dont know anything about computers so for any moms that would like to chat e-mail me

 

[Quoth]

I was raised as a "Fundie" (a term I hold with endearment and mean no offense by). I fit the definition provided in the "sticky," but most people probably wouldn't consider me a Fundie by the way I dress. At least, not if they follow the teachings of the late Falwell and/or Fred Phelps.

To me, modesty is dressing without drawing attention for the sake of selfish pride or to encourage lust. I believe this is different for each person within certain parameters.

 

[submisive2him]

well what about a women should not wear wich pertaineth to a man dont men wear pants?

 

[BigNorsk]

Women wear various forms of pants. Sometimes it is about the only way to be modest.

Marv

 

[Sketcher]

well what about a women should not wear wich pertaineth to a man dont men wear pants?

If a man were to wear women's pants, he would deserve to be slapped.

 

[submisive2him]

I do not belive any pants on a women is modest and I believe that it is not the only way to modest sometimes there is nothing like a lady wearing a nice long skirt to be modest and when pants were made they were made for men and this world has just addapted to it and i dont know about you but there is a lot of things that in this world that i will not lower my standards for

 

[Quoth]

I do not belive any pants on a women is modest and I believe that it is not the only way to modest sometimes there is nothing like a lady wearing a nice long skirt to be modest and when pants were made they were made for men and this world has just addapted to it and i dont know about you but there is a lot of things that in this world that i will not lower my standards for

It's fine if a woman does not wish to wear pants, but pants on a woman are not immodest anymore than they are immodest on a man. It is not written in Scripture that a woman is to only wear a dress, or that a man must wear a suit.

 

[submisive2him]

it is immodest because pants were made for men dresses were made for ladies and in our day people use the whole ladies wearing pants to comprimise with the world and we are not s'pose to be apart of the world we are s'pose to be seperate. There is nothing like a LADIE walking through the mall with a long dress or skirt to show that she is seperate and standing up for her christian walk with christ

 

[Quoth]

it is immodest because pants were made for men dresses were made for ladies and in our day people use the whole ladies wearing pants to comprimise with the world and we are not s'pose to be apart of the world we are s'pose to be seperate. There is nothing like a LADIE walking through the mall with a long dress or skirt to show that she is seperate and standing up for her christian walk with christ

I mean no offense, but if I see a lady in the mall with a dress or skirt, my first thought is, "Geeze, she's gotta be cold in that!" Pants are pants. They aren't a sign of the world.

 

[BigNorsk]

Biblically, men wear skirts, pants are never mentioned. Women wear skirts too. Even though the clothing of men and women was very similar in many ways such as the general category of clothing (skirt, robe, etc) the people knew which belonged to which gender. There were men's skirts and women's skirts, men's robes and women's robe's and so on. Pants are not a category that is limited to men either. Chinese women were wearing pants long before any European man.

Historically tights would be men's clothing, but today, at least outside the ballet, they are generally women's especially that form known as panty hose.

Marv

 

[desmalia]

I was raised as a "Fundie" (a term I hold with endearment and mean no offense by). I fit the definition provided in the "sticky," but most people probably wouldn't consider me a Fundie by the way I dress. At least, not if they follow the teachings of the late Falwell and/or Fred Phelps.

To me, modesty is dressing without drawing attention for the sake of selfish pride or to encourage lust. I believe this is different for each person within certain parameters.

Very interesting, Rob. I agree with you that modesty is primarily about not drawing vain or sexual attention.

If you don't mind my asking, how do you dress and why do fundies have problems with it?

Biblically, men wear skirts, pants are never mentioned. Women wear skirts too. Even though the clothing of men and women was very similar in many ways such as the general category of clothing (skirt, robe, etc) the people knew which belonged to which gender. There were men's skirts and women's skirts, men's robes and women's robe's and so on. Pants are not a category that is limited to men either. Chinese women were wearing pants long before any European man.

Historically tights would be men's clothing, but today, at least outside the ballet, they are generally women's especially that form known as panty hose.

Marv

I agree. Honestly, I feel much more modest in a nice pair of pants (not tight or revealing, of course), than I do even in a long skirt. All skirts, regardless of length make me feel kinda.... bare. Even with nylons, I'm just not comfortable, and feel somewhat exposed. Of course I find it is vital to consider the setting I'm in as well. If I attended a church where long skirts were considered the most modest and respectful way to dress, I would dress that way simply out of respect for others' feelings on the issue.

 

[submisive2him]

would you feel uncomfortable in a church wearing a skirt if the ladies wear pants

 

[desmalia]

would you feel uncomfortable in a church wearing a skirt if the ladies wear pants

Yes, I think I would.

 

[Albion]

it is immodest because pants were made for men dresses were made for ladies and in our day people use the whole ladies wearing pants to comprimise with the world and we are not s'pose to be apart of the world we are s'pose to be seperate.

You may be thinking of what belongs to each gender, but this is not a matter of modesty.

Pants on women are entirely modest, although how one wears them and how they fit can be either modest or immodest, just as with skirts and dresses.

 

[WannaWitness]

First, I shall examine the "pertaining to men" issue. I notice that many women who won't wear pants because they "pertained to men first" will still wear sneakers/athletic shoes, sweatshirts, sweaters, T-shirts, and boots, all originally "men's attire". So, even though they are trying to be feminine by never wearing pants, they are still wearing some things that "pertain to men". Hey, what about denim? In the form of a skirt or pants, it was originally men's material. I mean, think about it.

As far as modesty: Pants outline the shape of both legs. On males and females. Wearing loose- or normal-fitting pants should not pose a problem. As far as that goes, I have seen many skirts that are less modest than pants. Long ones that have slits clear up the length of the leg. Those can't be too modest. Skirts that are too short, and ultra-form-fitting skirts that really emphasize the rear and hips are not modest. I say that both skirts and pants can be modest, just as there are ones that are immodest. Nobody's really going to be happy unless we all went back to wearing robes like the Bible days... and even then someone will be offended.

If a woman feels convicted to wear only skirts or dresses for whatever reason, she is to be commended for that. What I don't like is when one who has this conviction has a "holier-than-everyone-else" attitude.

 

[WannaWitness]

And for those who think wearing skirts only means "closer to God", I've got news. There are a fair number of women who are not Christians who choose to wear only dresses. It could be for any reason, but these particular choices have nothing to do with the Lord.

 

[submisive2him]

I am so sorry I guess I am coming across the way that i want I am not trying to be " hollier than thou " please forgive me I am just trying to defend the reasoning the way I wear skirts and why I think ladies should wear dresses I apologize again

 

[WannaWitness]

I am so sorry I guess I am coming across the way that i want I am not trying to be " hollier than thou " please forgive me I am just trying to defend the reasoning the way I wear skirts and why I think ladies should wear dresses I apologize again

That's okay. It's just that there are a few around who actually do think that way. Not just about this issue, but other issues, as well.

Guess it's just one of those things each person thinks differently on.

Glad to have you here on CF. Sharing different thoughts is what makes this site so interesting.

 

[cubanito]

Before we wed, I went over to help my now wife who lived w her parents settle into a new house. I took the job of steam cleaning the carpet. Well, I was gaining weight and my work clothes were ill-fitted, and there was no AC on a midday summer Miami day, so I was most uncomfortable. Being alone in the house, I looked to see what I could find in the bags that were there that might make my chore less burdensome.

Voila, I found an ankle length tent-like dress the grandmother wore around the house. So remaining w only my underwear, I donned this wonderfully airy thin cotton dress, opened all the windows, raised all the blinds, and proceeded to give the carpet a thorough going over.

Well now, the neighbors, incl the across the street Baptist minister, found a topic of discussion for some time to come about the new arrivals to the neighborhood. So did my future wife's family, and my future wife, who only knew me for a month or so.

Now, I have NO cross-dressing fantasies. Oh, I am full of sin, but gender identity problems just aint among them. What I did was without thinking of the possible consequences. Not that I FLAUNTED it, it's just that in my socially inept (read geek, nerd, ect) makeup, the thought that someone would find it, well, odd, did not even cross my mind. I just wanted to be comfortable, and keep my work clothes clean so I could use them later.

Now who had the real sin. Me, the idiotic nerd who was simply looking at it practically, or those who turned the situation into a reason for gossip?

If a person wears something they know, or believe, is immodest or gender inapropiate, it is a sin. If they refuse to abide by the laws and conventions given by those in authority, then it is probably also a sin (exceptions occur).

Christianity has clear rules and boundaries in some matters, but what to wear is a relative matter, and one thus where sin is mostly from the attitude, rather than the cloth.

JR

 

[desmalia]

That's okay. It's just that there are a few around who actually do think that way. Not just about this issue, but other issues, as well.

Guess it's just one of those things each person thinks differently on.

Glad to have you here on CF. Sharing different thoughts is what makes this site so interesting.

I'll second that.

Before we wed, I went over to help my now wife who lived w her parents settle into a new house. I took the job of steam cleaning the carpet. Well, I was gaining weight and my work clothes were ill-fitted, and there was no AC on a midday summer Miami day, so I was most uncomfortable. Being alone in the house, I looked to see what I could find in the bags that were there that might make my chore less burdensome.

Voila, I found an ankle length tent-like dress the grandmother wore around the house. So remaining w only my underwear, I donned this wonderfully airy thin cotton dress, opened all the windows, raised all the blinds, and proceeded to give the carpet a thorough going over.

Well now, the neighbors, incl the across the street Baptist minister, found a topic of discussion for some time to come about the new arrivals to the neighborhood. So did my future wife's family, and my future wife, who only knew me for a month or so.

Now, I have NO cross-dressing fantasies. Oh, I am full of sin, but gender identity problems just aint among them. What I did was without thinking of the possible consequences. Not that I FLAUNTED it, it's just that in my socially inept (read geek, nerd, ect) makeup, the thought that someone would find it, well, odd, did not even cross my mind. I just wanted to be comfortable, and keep my work clothes clean so I could use them later.

Now who had the real sin. Me, the idiotic nerd who was simply looking at it practically, or those who turned the situation into a reason for gossip?

If a person wears something they know, or believe, is immodest or gender inapropiate, it is a sin. If they refuse to abide by the laws and conventions given by those in authority, then it is probably also a sin (exceptions occur).

Christianity has clear rules and boundaries in some matters, but what to wear is a relative matter, and one thus where sin is mostly from the attitude, rather than the cloth.

JR

^^ NEVER a dull post from this man!!

I've said it before. JR, I think you and my husband would get along famously. That is sooooo exactly the kind of thing he would do. Fortunately, very little embarrasses him anymore.