Missing link was a lie

[dad]

Well, some may be surprised.

"A fossil that was celebrated last year as a possible "missing link" between humans and early primates is actually a forebearer of modern-day lemurs and lorises, according to two papers by scientists at The University of Texas at Austin, Duke University and the University of Chicago."
'Missing link' fossil was not human ancestor as claimed, anthropologists say

Ho hum. Kids, Isn't it time to not believe a lying word these dreamers say to begin with?

 

[Agonaces of Susa]

Evolution is a hoax. Old news.

It's well known that Darwinists, evolutionists, and other pseudoscientists and crackpots have to lie in order to be damned to Hell.

"...all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." -- Revelation 21:8

 

[Orogeny]

So... it wasn't so much a lie as it was a misinterpretation. Cool! Science at work.

PS this doesn't disprove squat. K BYE!

 

[Nostromo]

We already know Agonaces is the missing link.

 

[laconicstudent]

Oh noes! Science was wrong about one thing, and our cladistics was altered slightly to account for our new knowledge! It must all be a lie!

 

[Pwnzerfaust]

I must have missed in that article where it was stated that it was, in any sense, a lie, fraud, etc. Seems to me it was simply another in a long line of instances of science correcting itself. Who knew!

 

[plindboe]

Disagreements are common in science, in fact it's what makes science work. Here's a research group that disagrees with another research group's assessment that Darwinius and other adapiform fossils "could represent a stem group from which later anthropoid primates evolved." ("could" being a key-word), and creationists behave as this is the ultimate proof that shows that it wasn't a so-called missing link, and even more that the first research group must have been lying.

Seems certain creationists choose sides in disagreements based on nothing but their own biases, while they consider the mere existence of a disagreement as the ultimate proof that their side is correct and that the other side must have been deliberately lying.

The funniest thing is that the researchers these creationists suddenly support entirely without question are themselves professional evolutionists.

Peter

 

[plindboe]

So... it wasn't so much a lie as it was a misinterpretation. Cool! Science at work.

PS this doesn't disprove squat. K BYE!

Oh noes! Science was wrong about one thing, and our cladistics was altered slightly to account for our new knowledge! It must all be a lie!

I must have missed in that article where it was stated that it was, in any sense, a lie, fraud, etc. Seems to me it was simply another in a long line of instances of science correcting itself. Who knew!

Let's not use dad's logic and act like the final conclusion is in, simply because we observe a disagreement. These debates happen all the time in phylogenetic systematics, and I'm sure the initial researchers will present counter arguments in a near future. This stuff is complicated, and unless you have an expansive knowledge about the numerous findings and the clades in question, it's very difficult to assess which researchers are making the better case.

Peter

 

[Ryal Kane]

The missing link has never been found.
All the thousands of links they have found? They're not missing!

 

[GoSeminoles!]

My last attempt at chicken pepperoni didn't go over that well. It was a bit dry. Any suggestions?

Also, evolution is awesome.

 

[BananaSlug]

In the creationist mind:

Correction=Wrong

Misinterpretation=Lie

Science=Religion

Evidence=The Bible

Evolution=Atheism

Personal interpretation=Inerrant Word of God

 

[troodon]

Well, some may be surprised.

"A fossil that was celebrated last year as a possible "missing link" between humans and early primates is actually a forebearer of modern-day lemurs and lorises, according to two papers by scientists at The University of Texas at Austin, Duke University and the University of Chicago."
'Missing link' fossil was not human ancestor as claimed, anthropologists say

Are you unfamiliar with the definition of the word "lie"?

 

[Friendly.Atheist]

I remember reading an article last year when this discovery was first announced. I also remember that no where in that article did anyone make any claims that this fossil was a missing link between humans and apes. The claim made in that article was that i was a link between haplorhines and strepsirrhines. If this was true, than it would have been an ancestor of modern humans, as we are haplorhines.

What this new article is telling me is they no longer think this fossil is a common ancestor, but is likely a strepsirrhines. That could make it an ancestor of modern lemurs, not any monkeys. Still a very cool find, if just because it is so well preserved.


At any rate, this hasn't completely discredited the field of paleoanthropology. It's not a lie. It's a hypothesis that after more consideration was determined to likely be false. The scientific method at work. Beautiful!


(I love being able to pull out words like paleoanthropology and haplorhine and know exactly what they mean. Makes me feel smart. Moments like this make college worth it!)

 

[BananaSlug]

Wasn't Ida found in the Messel fossil pits? The preservation of the messel fossil pits is astounding, and shows a wide variety of "tropical" animals that occured in Germany, including xenarthans.

Darwinus was a member of the Adapiformes, which according to cladistical analysis, are allied more closely with the strepsirrihines. In any case, the fossil is still a great find that expounds our knowledge and lends credence to the strengths of science.

 

[SithDoughnut]

I love it when creationists have to use science to try to prove science wrong. It just shows that their position is so weak that they have to get help from the idea they are trying to refute.

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

My last attempt at chicken pepperoni didn't go over that well. It was a bit dry. Any suggestions?

Also, evolution is awesome.

I'm vegan, so no suggestions. Sorry.

And yes, evolution is awesome.

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

I love it when creationists have to use science to try to prove science wrong. It just shows that their position is so weak that they have to get help from the idea they are trying to refute.

Yeah. I might have been impressed if Dembski from the DI came out with a study putting Ida into persepctive.

 

[Split Rock]

Well, some may be surprised.

"A fossil that was celebrated last year as a possible "missing link" between humans and early primates is actually a forebearer of modern-day lemurs and lorises, according to two papers by scientists at The University of Texas at Austin, Duke University and the University of Chicago."
'Missing link' fossil was not human ancestor as claimed, anthropologists say

Ho hum. Kids, Isn't it time to not believe a lying word these dreamers say to begin with?

What is the definition of a "Lie" in Dad's Lonely Church of One? I ask becasue it doesn't seem to match up with the defintion usually used.

 

[Exiledoomsayer]

What is the definition of a "Lie" in Dad's Lonely Church of One? I ask becasue it doesn't seem to match up with the defintion usually used.

Im no professional but it think it go's something like anything that is said that does not fit his predermined world view.
No disrespect meant ofcourse.

 

[laconicstudent]

Im no professional but it think it go's something like anything that is said that does not fit his predermined world view.
No disrespect meant ofcourse.

What you are describing is Confirmation bias - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia