Mind

[sadashivan]

Each one of talk about 'Mind' which is not any form physically visible yet is most contemporary phenomenon. Mind's influence is so intense that gives no choice but to follow its directions. Most ancient inscription 'Veda' explains - Body is a carrier of the ‘Mind’ and its organs are tools. Mind interacts with external environment and gathers information so as to direct organs to act. Mind is Genetic Code or encoded seed that establishes the ‘identity’ of a person. “The mind, according to advaita Vedanta - According to advaita Vedanta the mind is a subtle substance (dravya). It is neither atomic nor infinite in size, but it is said to be of madhyama pariNAma, medium size, which may be taken to mean that it pervades the body of the particular jIva to which it belongs. The mind of each jIva is different. It has a beginning, as is proved by such shruti statements as, “It (Brahman) projected the mind” (br. up. 1.2.1). (VedAnta paribhASha). The nyaya-vaisheshika system considers the mind to be an eternal substance, atomic in size. “An article Vedanta series 30 – Vedanta – Mind, intellect, ego and consciousness – Mind is explained as संकल्प-विकल्पात्माकं मनः decision and indecision. Tattvabodha says that decision and indecision are the nature of the mind, explaining its vacillation. Mind vacillates because it gathers information from the material wrold through organs of perception. Mind is the connecting factor between anthahkarana (internal sensory organs) and bahyakarana (external sensory organs) and hence, is considered as the single important factor in spirituality. Subconscious Mind is memory that retains impressions of history of experiences, instinct and intellect (intellect derived from past history and instinct) guides mind to accept or reject. Functioning system varies from person to person, depends on unconscious and conscious mind. “Vedic knowledge online explains – Chitta (Memory) derived from the root chit, “to be conscious”. Chitta is the subconscious mind. It is the mind-stuff. It is the store-house of memory. Samskaras or impressions of actions are imbedded here. It is one of the four parts of antahkarana. A view of the mind in five parts: 1st Jagrat chitta (conscious mind-wakeful consciousness) 2nd Samskara chitta (Subconscious mind-impression mind) 3rd Vasana chitta (subsubconscious mind-mind of subliminal traits) Karana chitta (superconscious mind) 4th Anukaran chitta (subsuperconscious mind).” “(Wikipedia) Mahabali king of kerala, descendent of Asura tribe was also known as Bali or Maveli. “Another version - Mahabali’s real name is Indrasena. He was descendent of ‘Diti’ Indo Iranian mother.” According to the Yoga Vasistha, after inquiring the realm beyond the universe, heaven, devas and asura, which is ruled by the mind, Mahabali thus concentrated on the mind and being satisfied in himself, taught his pupils ‘the only thing worth preserving is mind. Mind absorbs the knowledge you gain from gurus (spiritual teacher), your books and your life, and refines it to great wisdom’.”

 

[AV1611VET]

According to tripartitism, the mind is part of the heart.

The heart is the seat of the mind, the will, and the emotions.

 

[juvenissun]

Each one of talk about 'Mind' which is not any form physically visible yet is most contemporary phenomenon. Mind's influence is so intense that gives no choice but to follow its directions. Most ancient inscription 'Veda' explains - Body is a carrier of the ‘Mind’ and its organs are tools. Mind interacts with external environment and gathers information so as to direct organs to act. Mind is Genetic Code or encoded seed that establishes the ‘identity’ of a person. “The mind, according to advaita Vedanta - According to advaita Vedanta the mind is a subtle substance (dravya). It is neither atomic nor infinite in size, but it is said to be of madhyama pariNAma, medium size, which may be taken to mean that it pervades the body of the particular jIva to which it belongs. The mind of each jIva is different. It has a beginning, as is proved by such shruti statements as, “It (Brahman) projected the mind” (br. up. 1.2.1). (VedAnta paribhASha). The nyaya-vaisheshika system considers the mind to be an eternal substance, atomic in size. “An article Vedanta series 30 – Vedanta – Mind, intellect, ego and consciousness – Mind is explained as संकल्प-विकल्पात्माकं मनः decision and indecision. Tattvabodha says that decision and indecision are the nature of the mind, explaining its vacillation. Mind vacillates because it gathers information from the material wrold through organs of perception. Mind is the connecting factor between anthahkarana (internal sensory organs) and bahyakarana (external sensory organs) and hence, is considered as the single important factor in spirituality. Subconscious Mind is memory that retains impressions of history of experiences, instinct and intellect (intellect derived from past history and instinct) guides mind to accept or reject. Functioning system varies from person to person, depends on unconscious and conscious mind. “Vedic knowledge online explains – Chitta (Memory) derived from the root chit, “to be conscious”. Chitta is the subconscious mind. It is the mind-stuff. It is the store-house of memory. Samskaras or impressions of actions are imbedded here. It is one of the four parts of antahkarana. A view of the mind in five parts: 1st Jagrat chitta (conscious mind-wakeful consciousness) 2nd Samskara chitta (Subconscious mind-impression mind) 3rd Vasana chitta (subsubconscious mind-mind of subliminal traits) Karana chitta (superconscious mind) 4th Anukaran chitta (subsuperconscious mind).” “(Wikipedia) Mahabali king of kerala, descendent of Asura tribe was also known as Bali or Maveli. “Another version - Mahabali’s real name is Indrasena. He was descendent of ‘Diti’ Indo Iranian mother.” According to the Yoga Vasistha, after inquiring the realm beyond the universe, heaven, devas and asura, which is ruled by the mind, Mahabali thus concentrated on the mind and being satisfied in himself, taught his pupils ‘the only thing worth preserving is mind. Mind absorbs the knowledge you gain from gurus (spiritual teacher), your books and your life, and refines it to great wisdom’.”

When you die, where would your mind go?
Do not know?

 

[sadashivan]

Is mind not the self identity (soul) and our soul works through the body

 

[AV1611VET]

Is mind not the self identity (soul) and our soul works through the body

Not exactly.

The breakdown is as follows:

Man is body, soul, and spirit.

1 Thessalonians 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Body = soma = processes information via the senses

Soul = psyche = processes information via the mind, will, and emotions

Spirit = pneuma = process information via the word of God

The soul resides in the heart.

 

[sadashivan]

Thanks sir, You are perfectly right and I honour you. Soma is a kind of drink as wine offered during rituals. In antiquity people offered soma so as to please God. Soul is phyche but some times I realize why we react to environment surrounding us. In hospitals we behave differently than we are with family or girl friend in amusing places. Get exasperated when some one behaves opposite to us

 

[sadashivan]

According to tripartitism, the mind is part of the heart.

The heart is the seat of the mind, the will, and the emotions.

Thanks for your insight. Biologically heart and its function is creating oxygen to survive. You are exactly to the point emotionally.

 

[AV1611VET]

Soma is a kind of drink as wine offered during rituals.

Is that what they call "ambrosia"?

In antiquity people offered soma so as to please God.

God wants us to please Him by putting our faith in His Son, Jesus Christ, Who died on the Cross to pay the penalty for our sins.

Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

 

[AV1611VET]

Thanks for your insight.

You're welcome!

Biologically heart and its function is creating oxygen to survive.

This is true BIOLOGICALLY.

But THEOLOGICALLY, the heart is given credit as a thinking organ as well.

Proverbs 23:7a For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he:

Psalm 14:1a The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.

 

[Ginger123]

When you die, where would your mind go?
Do not know?

Every indication we have tells us that it dies along with our brain just like the minds of every other animal.

You are of course free to believe what ever you like, some believe it's transferred into other animals,
where it goes when that animal dies who knows?

 

[sadashivan]

Is that what they call "ambrosia"?

God wants us to please Him by putting our faith in His Son, Jesus Christ, Who died on the Cross to pay the penalty for our sins.

Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

Your point establishes Jesus was born to create new era by cleaning our sins. He is true God who guided us to new line of discipline

 

[Ginger123]

But THEOLOGICALLY, the heart is given credit as a thinking organ as well.

What does that tell you about Theology? is it akin to Astrology?

 

[AV1611VET]

What does that tell you about Theology?

More importantly, what does it tell you?

is it akin to Astrology?

No.

 

[Ginger123]

What does that tell you about Theology? is it akin to Astrology?

More importantly, what does it tell you?

No.

Why not? they both deal with fantasy and not reality and my dreamt up stories are as good as yours,
what does it tell me? when a story needs to call on the supernatural you can smell it's not going to be true.

 

[juvenissun]

Every indication we have tells us that it dies along with our brain just like the minds of every other animal.

You are of course free to believe what ever you like, some believe it's transferred into other animals,
where it goes when that animal dies who knows?

First, I was not asking you. And I won't ask you.
Second, could you give an answer to this question based on what the OP said? I am not interested in your opinion.

 

[juvenissun]

Is mind not the self identity (soul) and our soul works through the body

Are you answering my question, which is the destiny of mind after death? I can see you add another thing called soul to it. Should it be the part of the answer?

 

[bhsmte]

Why not? they both deal with fantasy and not reality and my dreamt up stories are as good as yours,
what does it tell me? when a story needs to call on the supernatural you can smell it's not going to be true.

I wonder what happens when someone gets a heart transplant?

 

[Davian]

What does that tell you about Theology? is it akin to Astrology?

Pretty much, from all appearances.

 

[Davian]

Thanks for your insight. Biologically heart and its function is creating oxygen to survive. You are exactly to the point emotionally.

This is true BIOLOGICALLY.

But THEOLOGICALLY, the heart is given credit as a thinking organ as well.

The heart creates oxygen and does your thinking for you? I can see how those two conclusions could go together.

Proverbs 23:7a For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he:

Psalm 14:1a The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.

Does the heart now have vocal cords?

I retract my earlier comment. Astrology makes far more sense.

 

[AV1611VET]

Pretty much, from all appearances.

If you think Astrology is akin to Theology, then put up a Zodiac on the courthouse lawn and watch atheists go by and giggle.

Then put the Ten Commandments up and watch them go by, and read tomorrow's newspaper, where they're up in arms that the Ten Commandments is forcing Christianity on the public.