I'm not sure what you're saying Hoshiyya.
Are you saying the Judaism the Apostles taught and practised wasn't Messianic Judaism? Judaism that included Yeshua as Messiah?
What were they practising then?
Are you disagreeing with the label "MJ", or the existence of Messianics that practised Judaism?
We do not have a void history for 1800 years where there were none who did not fit that description. God has always had a remnant who faithfully are the fulfillment of His Words.These are the saints.. These are they that keep the commandments of God and have the faith of Yeshua.
We have no reports of him ever leaving the faith of Judaism.Indeed what this Rashbatz wrote is right, and the Christianity that he saw around him was with the opinions of those believers altered from what Christianity was originally, which is shown from what can be found in the new testament of the Bible. But there is nothing from this that shows he became a believer in Yeshua, as Christ, the Messiah. He didn't, did he? His basis to not come to that faith was then the opinions of those professing as Christians around him in his time, without acknowledging faith should be had in what was found in that new testament, and with prophetic fulfillment that was needed for the Torah, writings, and what was said from prophets in the Bible, though it was understood that believers in that period when starting from Yeshua's time teaching and leading disciples on lived in the way he saw he should.
I think, so far, that there was alot of corruption inside the Temple, and many Jews did not want to participate in Temple activities because of the sinful corruption. Much like we see in the RCC, with molestation, and such...Rabbi Shimon ben Tzemach Duran (1361-1444), known as the Rashbatz. He did not view the institution of Christianity positively. Rather, he wrote his views about Yeshua as part of a polemic against Christianity. One of his main arguments against Christianity was that they did not even understand their own teacher or his first disciples. Why should he become a Christian…n and forsake the Torah, when Yeshua and his disciples (including Paul) were Jews who kept it faithfully.The Rashbatz not only demonstrates a remarkable knowledge of the New Testament, but his willingness to see it in Jewish terms gives him the ability to understand the Apostolic Writings In a way that many Christians cannot. Read more about him here....
https://lawofmessiah.wordpress.com/2015/05/26/rashbatz-and-the-new-testament/
After the destruction of the Temple, only two "Judaisms" survived: the Pharisees and the Nazarenes. In Yahweh, the followers of the Pharisaic halacha (Jewish Law, literally "The Way To Walk") gathered under the leadership of Yokhahan Ben-Zakkai and reorganized the Sanhedrin. In Yerushalayim (Jerusalem), the followers of the Nazarene halacha gathered under the leadership of Simeon, who replaced Ya’acov HaTzaddik ("James the Just"), brother of Yahshua, in 63 CE.
Are you suggesting that the Jewish Council at Jamnia was not sanctioned/sanctified by Yahweh?I think you mean that the Sanhedrin was reconvened in Yavneh, not in Yahweh.
Additionally, I'd love to see any historical evidence aside from conjecture regarding the progressive of leadership in the early Jerusalem congregation.
There's no city called Yahweh. Of course, you were fully aware of that, AbbaLove, so I can only wonder what lies behind your "question".
Yes, I've noticed myself that she copy and pastes a lot of things without any link to indicate the source. I've learned to copy the section in question and search in Google for it and you'll usually find it online.Note: If we are going to disect Vis' post we need to consider the possibility that she copied it word for word from another link. Or is it possible that Vis now prefers Yahshua to Yeshua or Y'shua?
Well, you see Y(J)ehova is my God. HE is so awesome! Chris Tomlin sings a song called Indescribable that matches HIM fairly........ I wonder if he is related to Lilly Tomlin?Was that a typo (Jehova)? What about Yehovah?
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